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Old 04-09-2014, 10:06 PM   #31
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Threads getting hijacked but you might like this read http://www.plumbingengineer.com/feb_11/designers.php
E.... I did reead it... Thank you...... Amazing isn't it.... two codes differing in fair degree, especially with regard to venting..... and ultimately three codes IPC/UPC/AHJ....
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RELIEF VENTS-STACKS OF MORE THAN 10 BRANCH INTERVALS
914.1 Where required. Soil and waste stacks in buildings having more than 10 branch intervals shall be provided with a relief vent at each tenth interval installed, beginning with the top floor.
914.2 Size and connection. The size of the relief vent shall be equal to the size of the vent stack to which it connects. The lower end of each relief vent shall connect to the soil or waste stack through a wye below the horizontal branch serving the floor, and the upper end shall connect to the vent stack through a wye not less than 3 feet (914 mm) above the floor.
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Read the article another plumbing engineer I will be frying in plan review..

Code is from the 2009 IPC
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RELIEF VENTS-STACKS OF MORE THAN 10 BRANCH INTERVALS
914.1 Where required. Soil and waste stacks in buildings having more than 10 branch intervals shall be provided with a relief vent at each tenth interval installed, beginning with the top floor.
914.2 Size and connection. The size of the relief vent shall be equal to the size of the vent stack to which it connects. The lower end of each relief vent shall connect to the soil or waste stack through a wye below the horizontal branch serving the floor, and the upper end shall connect to the vent stack through a wye not less than 3 feet (914 mm) above the floor.
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Read the article another plumbing engineer I will be frying in plan review..

Code is from the 2009 IPC
Quote from the article-- For the sake of this article, it is worth noting that I am comparing the 2009 IPC with the UPC of that same year

I wouldn't worry about him if I was you- he's in California- the land of the great UPC
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ok the op question is answered..its not up to code so its not legal lets move on
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ok the op question is answered..its not up to code so its not legal lets move on
I'm wondering how the inspection went...
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I'm wondering how the inspection went...
me too hope he lets us know....
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Oh! I thought you forgot about me. We have to have inspections every 6 months or we are charged extra so I am waiting till the end of the month when it is 6 months to get the inspection. I will let you know.
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Oh! I thought you forgot about me. We have to have inspections every 6 months or we are charged extra so I am waiting till the end of the month when it is 6 months to get the inspection. I will let you know.
I would cover your pipe with a couple inches of dirt if you're letting it sit exposed. ABS warps and bows if left exposed to the sun's heat- even in a couple hours. You can always uncover the fittings if the inspector asks.

If it were me I'd get the inspection asap and get the work backfilled
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I would cover your pipe with a couple inches of dirt if you're letting it sit exposed. ABS warps and bows if left exposed to the sun's heat- even in a couple hours. You can always uncover the fittings if the inspector asks.

If it were me I'd get the inspection asap and get the work backfilled
yep me too not pretty when it bows upward...we quit using abs for undergrounds for that reason alone....
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Just have a small question. When the showers dry flat vent blocks how do you plumbers in UPC land fix it? Not to mention even know it has blocked?
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UPC
905.3
Unless prohibited by structural conditions,
each vent shall rise vertically to a point not less than
six(6)inches(152mm)above the flood-level rim of
the fixture served before off setting horizontally,and
when ever two or more vent pipes converge,each
such vent pipe shall rise to a point at least six(6)
inches(152mm) in height above the flood-level rim
of the plumbing fixture it serves before being
connected to any other vent.Ventslessthansix(6)
inches(152mm)abovetheflood-levelrimofthe
fixtureshallbeinstalledwithapproveddrainage
fittings,material,andgradetothedrain.



So after reading that If I inspected your shower you better have a real good reason why you have no walls around the shower where you could have vertically vented it..

I have never seen a shower with no walls yet. But i'm in ohio

I would also suggest you get some sand or other fill to support your piping its entire length.

The point is a plumber usually moves the drain and vents then returns to the trap.

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UPC
905.3
Unless prohibited by structural conditions,
each vent shall rise vertically to a point not less than
six(6)inches(152mm)above the flood-level rim of
the fixture served before off setting horizontally,and
when ever two or more vent pipes converge,each
such vent pipe shall rise to a point at least six(6)
inches(152mm) in height above the flood-level rim
of the plumbing fixture it serves before being
connected to any other vent.Ventslessthansix(6)
inches(152mm)abovetheflood-levelrimofthe
fixtureshallbeinstalledwithapproveddrainage
fittings,material,andgradetothedrain.



So after reading that If I inspected your shower you better have a real good reason why you have no walls around the shower where you could have vertically vented it..

I have never seen a shower with no walls yet. But i'm in ohio

I would also suggest you get some sand or other fill to support your piping its entire length.

The point is a plumber usually moves the drain and vents then returns to the trap.
Yes, I vertical vent
But perhaps I need to put a 2" HD or FD in the middle of a 15' mech. rm.
I'm only allowed 6' on 2" trap arm. So, I run the vent horz. under the slab to the nearest partition with a CO at floor level
Done deal, passes inspection every time.
BTW- Idaho does not allow 1.5" pipe under slab either. 2" is the smallest we can go.....
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here we go round the maulberry bush thread is answered
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the mulberry bush the mulberry bush, here we go round the mulberry bush so early in the morning.

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