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Old 04-07-2014, 07:59 PM   #16
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Would that be at the toilet end or before the septic end where it leaves the house? When I built my home he wanted it where it left the house.
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It's actually required at the upper end and where it exits the house. But we used to be allowed to use a toilet as a clean out- this may still apply for you. He'll let you know, the fix is easy.

You may have to change the horizontal to vertical 90 to a combination y &45- off the end of the y would be the toilet, the vertical 3" riser/vent would become the clean out. After the CO it can be reduced back to a 2" vent

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Find any gold when you're digging out there.......
Not yet. If you want to come over and help dig footings you can keep all you find. Bring a jackhammer it's all rock.
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Not yet. If you want to come over and help dig footings you can keep all you find. Bring a jackhammer it's all rock.
I was just there... traveling from SF to Co... with my daughter and her lab.. Cooper.

Took Cooper right into the Casino with us and played.... a new first for me... taking your dog right into the Casino....

You have a nice small town friendly feel out there .... in the middle of ??.

Best and Good luck with the build.

PS: Coop did not like the big stuffed bear in the corner.
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that would be clasified as a wet vent...vent should be above the flow line..some areas allow for wet venting..but imo its not a good vent system.. if you can rip it out and redo it with vent off top..
Ben a dry flat vent is not very wet....
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This is how I did it the first time.
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Ben a dry flat vent is not very wet....
anytime water is above the vent we always called it a wet vent because at one point water is in the vent stream.... is that in the book ipc or upc ?????

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anytime water is above the vent we always called it a wet vent because at one point water is in the vent stream.... is that in the book ipc or upc ?????
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anytime water is above the vent we always called it a wet vent because at one point water is in the vent stream.... is that in the book ipc or upc ?????
Under the IPC ben Only Bathroom group fixtures are allowed to be wet vented. Bathroom group defined as A toilet, 1 lav, 1 shower or a tub, A bidet and a emergency floor drain in the bath room. You can have up to 2 bathroom groups vented on a single wet vent. But there are things to be aware off. All lavs must be vented regardless. The theory is if you use a lav as a wet vent and that wet vent gets blocked you will notice your sink no longer drains. So you call Javiles out and he snakes it and reopens your vent.

A dry flat vent having nothing draining through it can block your vent is lost and your not the wiser...

The wet vent is also based on using oversized pipe. 1.5 inch 1 DFU, 2 inch 4 DFU, 3 inch 10 DFU = 2 Bathroom groups.

Under the IPC 1.25 inch pipe still is in the code.

You have two types of wet vents one being horizontal the other being vertical. The key with vertical is the toilet must always connect below the other fixtures.

It was a struggle for me when this stuff was brought into the state. Being our old code was everything was vented regardless in a vertical way...
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Under the IPC ben Only Bathroom group fixtures are allowed to be wet vented. Bathroom group defined as A toilet, 1 lav, 1 shower or a tub, A bidet and a emergency floor drain in the bath room. You can have up to 2 bathroom groups vented on a single wet vent. But there are things to be aware off. All lavs must be vented regardless. The theory is if you use a lav as a wet vent and that wet vent gets blocked you will notice your sink no longer drains. So you call Javiles out and he snakes it and reopens your vent.

A dry flat vent having nothing draining through it can block your vent is lost and your not the wiser...

The wet vent is also based on using oversized pipe. 1.5 inch 1 DFU, 2 inch 4 DFU, 3 inch 10 DFU = 2 Bathroom groups.

Under the IPC 1.25 inch pipe still is in the code.

You have two types of wet vents one being horizontal the other being vertical. The key with vertical is the toilet must always connect below the other fixtures.

It was a struggle for me when this stuff was brought into the state. Being our old code was everything was vented regardless in a vertical way...
ok ...in the op question he ask if its code....i said we called that a wet vent because water passes the vent opening....which i said some places allow for wet venting...which i said i don't like wet venting at all because i don't think it the best system for venting... and you said a dry vent is not very wet.... I know what the ipc,upc code says about venting.. in the op picture is it legal to vent that way...
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IMO- the picture was wrong because the vent was not taken off above the trap's crown.
I can run horizontal flat vents below the flood rim- when there is no other way do to structural conditions
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ok ...in the op question he ask if its code....i said we called that a wet vent because water passes the vent opening....which i said some places allow for wet venting...which i said i don't like wet venting at all because i don't think it the best system for venting... and you said a dry vent is not very wet.... I know what the ipc,upc code says about venting.. in the op picture is it legal to vent that way...
No because he has a dry flat vent no fixture attached to it IPC does not allow a dry flat vent in any circumstance. A fixture vent must rise 6 inches above the flood level rim prior to turning horizontal. As another poster noted the trap cannot be higher then its vent.
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IMO- the picture was wrong because the vent was not taken off above the trap's crown.
I can run horizontal flat vents below the flood rim- when there is no other way do to structural conditions
Honest E.... I'm sure no code guy, or even a plumber, but what code cite allows that..... I do understand a BO might allow/overlook it.
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Honest E.... I'm sure no code guy, or even a plumber, but what code cite allows that..... I do understand a BO might allow/overlook it.
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Any idea if IPC allows that also.?(Don't look it up.... your word is good by me


Edit PS: (Actually that makes good sense, especially with the consideration you use all drainage fittings on it)
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You are darn tootin dead on correct..... Thank You for the education

Any idea if IPC allows that also.?(Don't look it up.... your word is good by me


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