Originally Posted by oh'mike
the sad truth is that American Standard is disposable---Mike---
I think you mean SOUTH American Standard.
I hate to say it, because I just bought an old house with 2 american standard cadet 3 toilets, and an american standard tub shower valve in an exterior wall.
I've pulled countless toilets out of boxes and found them to be anywhere from 1/8 to 3/8 out at the base of the bowl. 1/8 isnt' that bad, but 3/8 of caulking on one side is an eyesore. We recently repaired an old A/S shower valve for someone, and the lack of availability on parts was shocking. Once we finally got it it was somewhere in the realm of 100 bucks for a stinking cartridge.
So far, for the money, Moen is my favorite. Delta second. If price was no object, i'd go Kohler.