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Old 04-18-2013, 07:14 PM   #1
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Hey all,

Just got to the cottage, flipped on the water and flood city. Bathtub valve is leaking like a siv.

The bathtube is an acrylic bathtub/shower combination and there is no way I can access the valve short of pulling the siding off and going at it from the outside (don't want to do that).

Anyone have an idea how I should address this? how the hell do you install a new valve into an enclosure? Do I really need to pull the enclosure out?

thanks!

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Old 04-18-2013, 07:46 PM   #2
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Lets guess, you live in an area where it freezes, someone plumbed this on an outside wall, there's no heat on top of that, and no one blew out the lines.

What type siding is it?

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For some better guesses please go back and add your location to your profile.
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Lets guess, you live in an area where it freezes, someone plumbed this on an outside wall, there's no heat on top of that, and no one blew out the lines.

What type siding is it?
100% right. Northern part of Ontario Canada. Pipes are on outside wall but on the other side of the insulation. There is heat in the bathroom and we've never blown the lines out in 17 years since cottage was built. I will update profile when I can, the 3G Internet is very shaky here. There is cedar siding on outside and no was access the valve from inside
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I hate them, but there are huge repair covers made for just your situation---if you only need to replace the valve---if the shower arm of tub spout are broken---you need to remove the enclosure---

As old as that is--it might be brittle and need replacing---
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There is heat in the bathroom
But, was the heat on, while you were away?
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No, the heat was not on. With the cost of electricity here I would go bankrupt running the heat for months when not there! For that cost I could just remodel the washroom every other year! We've been in this cottage for 16 years and this has never happened plus the water was off and the system drained. I think maybe the hot/cold cycles over the winter cracked the valve.
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The plate I have is about 5 inches. I will trace its outline on the enclosure and cut the hole bigger. If I have enough room to replace the valve then all will be good. Of not ill get one of those 12 inch romedelling plates and live with that. Only other option is to get rid of enclosure and replace it with normal tub and shower but that would involve dry walling and framing and I'm short on time as it is!
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Use one of these
http://www.lowes.com/pd_89236-866-19...7C1&facetInfo=

And replace it with a Moen single handle valve round cover trim...
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No, the heat was not on. With the cost of electricity here I would go bankrupt running the heat for months when not there! For that cost I could just remodel the washroom every other year! We've been in this cottage for 16 years and this has never happened plus the water was off and the system drained. I think maybe the hot/cold cycles over the winter cracked the valve.
Ayuh,.... Whoever Drained it, screwed up,...
Were the lines blown out with compressed air,..??

Air don't freeze, but water does, 'n expands when it does....

Yer hot, 'n cold cycle theory is Bullship, can't happen, didn't happen...
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Ayuh,.... Whoever Drained it, screwed up,...
Were the lines blown out with compressed air,..??

Air don't freeze, but water does, 'n expands when it does....

Yer hot, 'n cold cycle theory is Bullship, can't happen, didn't happen...
We've never blown the lines out. We leave the heat on set to 5 degrees in the basement. The entire cottage is insulated as well. This is a winterized cottage and we use it 5-6 times per winter. When we leave we shut off the well pump, open all the taps and open the drain the basement. We've done this for 16 years and never had a problem.

I expanded the valve opening in the enclosure but the leak is further down behind the overflow area. I guess the whole enclosure has to come out to fix it! Ill probably just replace the enclosure with a regular tub and shower and move the plumbing to the other, inside wall. At least the laundry room basement ceiling is open underneath which makes drain work much easier!

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