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Old 09-26-2009, 12:15 PM   #1
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Leaking Toilet???


is it possible for the toilet to leak into the subfloor without any water showing up on the floor? i noticed the other day that on one side of the toilet, the floor is starting to sink. the dip goes about half the length of the toilet and around the back. the remaining floor is fine. the dip is not huge, but can be seen upon looking closer. it is an old toilet and i think that if i had to replace the wax ring i should also replace the toilet....

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Old 09-26-2009, 03:43 PM   #2
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Yes, it is possible. The floor may not be perfectly level and allowing the water to pool to one side. There amy also be a space between the flooring and the drain pipe and the water is seeping to that area. Removing the toilet and inspecting is the only way to tell.

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Old 09-26-2009, 11:28 PM   #3
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Would you like to know how many bathroom floors I have replaced in the last twelve months due to this very problem? Many! "majakdragon" is correct. IF a toilet is leaking between the toilet and wax ring or wax ring and floor flange, then the water will seek the lowest level, an uneven floor will cause the water to go to the lower side. We are not talking about a floor that is out of level an inch or so, just a little bit will do. Pour a little water on your floor in front of the toilet and see which way it runs. Depending on what type flooring you have in your bath-linoleum, tile, whatever, it was installed on top of a sub-floor of some type. A floor that has suddenly had a "bump" rise up in it, or feels "mushy" is a likely problem with floor rot. Most of the homes I find a problem in can be diagnosed by crawiling under the home and looking at the floor of the bath from the bottom. I have seen plywood floors which have "peeled" out from the bottom until I wonder how they walk on the floor. Leaking toilets can also lead to rotted floor joist's, rotted sills, and in some cases a rotten floor under the tub they did not know they had. Major replacement problems. Check yours out soon and hopefull avoid any major damages. Good Luck, David
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Old 09-27-2009, 01:41 PM   #4
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I was afraid you were going to say that! the floor is cushy around the side and back of the toilet all the way to the wall. when i pull this toilet, i am going to replace it due to age. the floor is level in front and on the sides of the toilet, but not in the back. if the water goes to the lowest side, then the floor slopes the wrong way. i am wondering if the valve on the wall is leaking inside the wall. I hate crawling under my house! LOL!!!

if it is the toilet leaking, it only leaks into the floor when you flush correct?

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Yes, if your wax ring is the culprit, it should only leak when you flush.

if your floor is "squishy" plan on doing some subfloor replacement also...
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:51 PM   #6
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well after spending some time under the house, i am not sure that it is the toilet that is leaking. the floor from under the house around the toilet looks fine. it is the floor around a drain in my wall that does not. not sure where that drain comes from since that side of the house is a single story. it looks like the issue is inside the wall!

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