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Old 01-28-2007, 05:23 PM   #61
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The putty seemed to do it! I'm installed and leak free for now. I figure having that tee upside down might cause some issues down the line, so I am still considering reversing it one day (I can't believe I didn't notice the curve, I feel so stupid)...But for now, it's working.

Can't thank all of you, espeically Ron, enough for your time and patience. I've learned a lot!

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Old 01-29-2007, 08:31 AM   #62
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Did you have to do anything to the trap fittings to get them to stop leaking or just slightly tighten them some more?
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Old 01-29-2007, 08:54 AM   #63
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Old 02-02-2007, 08:28 AM   #64
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Ok, I'm back. Bad news, we have a leak.

It's RIGHT at the base where the reducer meets the pipe coming up out of the floor. Worst possible spot as I can't see a way of getting this out without cutting right at the base pipe which is going to not only make me have to start totally over (and buy all new pieces), but also possibly not even leave enough pipe exposed coming up out of the floor to put a new reducer cap on there.

Is there ANYTHING I can do under the lip of the reducer cap, where the arrow is, to stop this leak? A bead of silicone sealant perhaps??? I hope there might be something I can do...Even though I realize it's not the ideal solution, starting over just makes me kinda ill. What a bummer.

See the photo below. If there's something I can do, please let me know. If not, can you let me know where the smartest place to cut will be to allow me to get the sink back out (above inside the cabinet or right below the cap there?). What worries me about cutting below the cap is that it doesn't leave a lot of exposed pipe coming up out of the floor anymore.

Hellllpppp...Sorry Ron guess I didn't fix it right the first time, ugggh


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Try this, dry it off real good, now add several layers of pvc glue over that spot, let each layer dry before applying the next layer, a good six layers should seal it up. Don't run water till this is all dry.

Now you know that using a sledge hammer was a bad idea.
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Was this coupling glued on the bottom?
I do not see the pvc glue there.
You may be able to lift up the upper drain section and glue this leaking joint.

Where does this drain go below the floor? Is this drain on the second floor or the first floor?

If you have access to the drain pipe as drops below the floor then I would cut out the leaking joint if you are unable to repair it and replace this short section.
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Redline brings up a few idea, think of those 1st, if those are not possible, then try what I thought of.

If glue is clear you will not see it, in a picture anyways.
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Hey guys,

Thanks for the speedy replies as always. The drain is on the base cement floor of the house, I can't get below it. I also can't really get under the vanity to lift that drain couper without cutting the PVC somewhere as this goes up through a hole in the bottom of the vanity. I have only a couple inches of clearance in there, maybe a couple more if I lift the vanity up on blocks until I hit the first 45 degree turn in the PVC maze inside the vanity. I'm not really sure how I'd get leverage under that cap anyway, it's cemented in and there's only an inch or so between the bottom of the cap and the floor.

I'd already tried Ron's idea of putting more cement around the seam but with no luck, leak was still there -- Also did some Google research this morning and read a post from someone saying that extra PVC glue was just a temporary fix, maybe for a few months, and that I'd see the leak come back again. Is that true?

Oh, and Ron, if I ignore that and try the 6 layers of PVC glue anyway, how long should I wait for each layer to dry before applying a new layer?

Two other fixes I saw mentioned, both of which were only temporary -- One guy recommended an industrial glue called GOOP - He said to slather it around the joint and that it would last a few months. Another guy suggested epoxy cement, but also said that due to its bonding properties it would eventually expand and allow water through. They all mentioned that the PVC cement was a bonding agent but it wouldn't serve as a leak stopper.

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Just read this on another page...Now I'm REALLY scared to try this...

"DO NOT ADD PVC CEMENT TO THE OUTSIDE OF A GLUE JOINT.
PVC "Cement" is actually a PVC Solvent. It breaks down the plastic and "welds" the two pieces together. Adding cement to the outside of a joint will weaken the fitting and could result in a break later. "
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The drain is on the base cement floor of the house, I can't get below it.
Are you saying that the drain pipe is inside cement (cement floor) after it leaves thru the vanity?
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My house is built on a cement slab -- I have no basement. I assume there is a small sub-area under the concrete where the plumbing exits but I have no idea how that's set up. The pipe you see in the photo above is going directly down at ground level into the cement slab. I have no way at all to get under it. I assume it goes down and into whatever the plumbing system is and out.
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If you was to cut the coupling off a close as possible to the hub, how much pipe do you think you would be left with?
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If I got under there with a saw, and cut below the coupling, there would be 1 inch of exposed PVC coming up out of the floor (of the 2" wide base PVC). That's it. I'm not sure that's enough to work with. I could also cut above the coupling...But then would still have to figure out how to get that coupling and reducer off the pipe (back to square one basically!)
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The other thing I was thinking is cut just below the first 45 INSIDE the cabinet, try and get all that other junk chipped off the drainage PVC from the floor (like the start again) and start over. Does that make more sense?
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Hey guys,

I gave it some thought and decided starting over was the best approach. I managed to get the whole works apart and back to this state:




So now, the problem is that I noticed what MAY be causing the leaks. This bare pipe that comes up through the cement floor (base of the house) has some damage. There are some slivers missing on the sides of it (likely a side effect from removing the last coupler that was on there before I started).

So, before I start doing anything, is there anything I can/should do to this pipe before I attach/glue ANYTHING to it? I can try and get a photo of the damage if that would help. It's a little messy back there right now. I just want to do this RIGHT this time. I cannot get underneath this pipe as this is the base/ground floor of my home (no basement). This is about as bare as it gets.

Help/suggestions? THANK YOU ALL!

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