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Old 01-26-2007, 07:26 AM   #46
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Rotating the 45's the other way isn't a bad idea, actually. What do you think of that Ron?
Sure you can, just so as long as you can make that direct connection.

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Also, a neighbor of mine was up and had a few comments -- He suggested I use a smaller run of PVC coming up out of the base there, and turn the 45's back so the plumbing runs up against the back wall, between the hot and cold inputs. Thoughts there?
You can do it that way also there is so many ways you can accomplish this, you just have to decide which way to go.

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Also, he suggested I don't have a proper studor vent, he said what I have looks like a mechanical vent and is not allowed!??! I paid around $5 for it but he said a studor vent is $20! Is that right? The the last line here didn't have any venting at all, and it worked fine for 6 years!!!
Either or will work, there both against code here , but you need a vent, it allows air in the line, keeps gases out of the house.

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Old 01-26-2007, 09:12 AM   #47
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Does this sink have a stopper?

( I do not see one in the picture. Hope that doesn't change your plan.)

You could also lengthen the small piece between the 45's to get it over farther to one side and may be help out the trap connection(?). You would also have to adjust the length of the straight pipe above the upper 45 and shorten it.


You could also shorten the straight piece that is last to come out of the trap if that would help.

many possibilities just need to find what fits best for you.

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Ok, if what I have works as a vent, no need to spend another $20 just to get a different type that's against code anyway, I guess.

No stopper, actually, it's a toggle push pop drain (forget what they call that). You guys are right, lots of options there...If I get the works back closer to the wall I may be able to even fit a shelf in. I'll have to get out the 'ol saw and make a few more cuts, also think I will switch to the non-flex extension as well. Hopefully I'll glue it up right and be in business tonight! Looking forward to being done.
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Ok, got it done, and I have leaks everywhere. The good news is that none of my PVC glue points seem to be leaking (though I must have made a slight error in the assembly as the PVC is slightly crooked, though I don't think that's the issue).

I've taken photos of where the leaks are. I've tightened these up as best I could but have NOT used any thread tape (though I think the problem is bigger than that, at least up at the countertop).

Where the trap meets the trap arm, I can actually see water pooled inside the connector there, after I shut off the water.

There also seems to be a slow leak at the top where the water first comes under (right at the drain) and I'm not sure where else.

So, where to start? What might be the problem here?

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I need a closer photo shot of the bottom side of sink, and tell me how you assembled this.

For other leaks try tape or use some pipe dope.
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One more thing I see, is the santee turned upside down?
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For the leak nearest the sink - did you apply plumbers putty before you assembled that area?

To help stop the other leaks, you should first loosen the hand fittings at the trap. Then start each fitting to get the inside tapered washer to seat against the pipe. Do not tighten just one but slowly work each one down evenly until they are all tight. The washer(s) may be damaged and may need to be replaced if you overtightened them and they were not seated properly.(?)

What will usually happen is that if you completly tighten one fitting first then it may not allow the other tapered washers to seat properly against the pipe. It restricts the movement of the other fittings to properly seat.

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Ok, this is kinda bad news. First off I had no idea the that there was a right way and a wrong way for the tee to go. Both top and bottom looked the same to me. Maybe I bought the wrong piece? I'm almost certain that I didn't see a difference in that tee so I didn't pay any mind to which end went up. Since everything in there is totally glued together so closely, and since I am less than an inch from the top of the counter, adding any height to this is going to now allow it to fit. It's quite possible I will have to cut at the base and start completely over.

I wasn't sure about plumbers putty -- The instructions did not instruct me to use any but I wasn't sure. I thought maybe you didn't use it for vessels or something. There are rubber gaskets directly under the drain on the sink side and another rubber gasket flat up against the countertop from underneath. That brass nut you see at the very top is what I tightened to hold it in place. So there's no putty there at all but instructions didn't say to use it.

Ok so I'm sort of stuck here -- what's going to happen if I stop the leaks but don't turn the tee upside down? My plan was to re-tighten everything and try tape. Most of the water IS going down the drain. But what did I screw up by having this tee facing the wrong way? I swear from looking at it both ends looked identical to me...
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Looking at the tee you can see the curve on the side of it, it is suppose to curve downward, you maynot have any problems the way it is, and it will work like it is.

Solve the leaks and enjoy.
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Okay, I did go ahead and use some thread tape and refasten all the trap area connections -- Looks like no leaks there now. Just one slow drip coming from right where the sink meets the counter underneath. I didn't use any plumbers putty anywhere there, instructions didn't say to, they did include a rubber washer for both the top and bottom which I thought was the substitute for putty - Figured maybe with a vessel sink you didn't use putty. Am I wrong? Is the lack of putty what's causing that particular link?

Ron, a photo of the top and a scan of the sink drain installation instructions are coming shortly.
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You will need to determine where the leak generates from.

It could be leaking from where the sink connects to the drain or the connection where it meets the chrome pipe (tail piece).
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First off I had no idea the that there was a right way and a wrong way for the tee to go. Both top and bottom looked the same to me. Maybe I bought the wrong piece? I'm almost certain that I didn't see a difference in that tee so I didn't pay any mind to which end went up.
When you posted a picture of the tee yesterday at 12:04, the photo has the tee in the correct position. The curved section points down. It happens.
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Put some putty under the top of that drain assembly, then test for leaks.
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You may be able to loosen the first pvc fitting. Then loosen the brass nut below the sink. Slightly push up the pop up assemply and put your putty in. Re-assemble.

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