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Old 01-12-2007, 10:50 PM   #16
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in that pick that is kind of a screwie pvc drain pipe. I have one like that in my 2nd bathroom but it doesn't look like that. Meaning it goes through the floor. But i don't think the pvc pipe is that big.

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Yeah, I was kind of hoping the sledge would knock the glue loose, not break the entire pipe. What I'm thinking I'll have to do now is use some kind of cutting tool to get into the PVC coming up from the floor there and get out the garbage inside -- Any recommendations on how I can get the broken stuff outta there? I'd like to of course use the outer PVC there still if possible.
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That should be 1-1/2

Use what they call a Ram Bit, it will chew out the out pipe in the fitting so you can reuse the existing hub, you might have order it online, or a plumbing supply house might have one.

Use this with a 1/2" drill and use in slow speed.
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Thanks! Gonna just order one online. Will that also be able to get the longer piece out of the pvc I pulled out from the hole? It's glued in there pretty good as well. I'll hacksaw it down first of course. Then I assume I can use the ram bit again on the other end too and just re-fit a new piece back in? Also, what kind of material do you recommend to re-glue the new pieces back in please?

Oh, will a cordless 14.4v drill work ok with this bit?

Thanks for your help!!!!!
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What? Better show a new picture, stop breaking your pipe, it looks like pipe below the one I see now is 2"
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Flooring doesn't go under cabinets. Laminate is kind of bad for a bathroom to be quite honest. You might as well change the floor while you're at it.
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Flooring doesn't go under cabinets. Laminate is kind of bad for a bathroom to be quite honest. You might as well change the floor while you're at it.
I always tile under cabinate and most of the people I've done work with have tiled under cabinats. The rational is what happens if five years from now somthing goes wrong or owner decides they want new cabinats. Ontop of the floor it's simply a remove and replace, below the floor your limited to the same size or larger. Additionally you will have some grout work to do around the cabinat. It's worth the extra few dollars to do just go under them in my opinion.
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I want to continue to thank everyone for posting in this thread. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT as a plumbing novice.

First up -- A few more questions.

1) I also took out a toilet to remodel the bathroom. I am putting the same exact toilet back in but I'm told I should buy a new seal. Is that correct? What do I need to ask for at the Home Depot/Lowes before I put the toilet back?

2) I purchased a new vanity with a separate granite top at Lowes to install in the corner here. First up, there's no back for the vanity, it's just going against a wall so no big deal, but is this normal? Second, the granite top, nowhere in the instructions does it indicate a way to attach it to the vanity -- What should I use, if anything? Silicone seal? Finally, to seal the granite top to the corner, is just white caulk good enough (as was there before) or should I be looking for something else?

3) Ron The Plumber -- The pipes are indeed 1 1/2 like you suggested I believe. The top of the PVC cap in the photo says 2 x 1 1/2. So do I go with that pipe chewing drill bit you recommended then? And can I just use that with my cordless drill? The outer pipe in the photo is much thicker/stronger than the PVC inside it, would a flathead screwdriver and a hammer to chisel it out possibly work as well?

As always, thanks -- I did consider redoing the laminate floor but for now am gonna keep it as is.

Look forward to some replies, I'll post a photo when it's done too. I really appreciate all the assistance.

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1) I also took out a toilet to remodel the bathroom. I am putting the same exact toilet back in but I'm told I should buy a new seal. Is that correct? What do I need to ask for at the Home Depot/Lowes before I put the toilet back?
Yes always use a new seal.

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2) I purchased a new vanity with a separate granite top at Lowes to install in the corner here. First up, there's no back for the vanity, it's just going against a wall so no big deal, but is this normal?
Yes it is normal

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Second, the granite top, nowhere in the instructions does it indicate a way to attach it to the vanity -- What should I use, if anything? Silicone seal? Finally, to seal the granite top to the corner, is just white caulk good enough (as was there before) or should I be looking for something else?
I believe you can use caulking for both questions.

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The pipes are indeed 1 1/2 like you suggested I believe. The top of the PVC cap in the photo says 2 x 1 1/2. So do I go with that pipe chewing drill bit you recommended then? And can I just use that with my cordless drill? The outer pipe in the photo is much thicker/stronger than the PVC inside it, would a flathead screwdriver and a hammer to chisel it out possibly work as well?
You can give it a try, but remember if the fitting the pipe is glued into cracks, you will have go further into the remodel, take you time and don't use a sledge hammer. If you use the tool take it slow, don't push it, chew out the old pipe slowly.
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Thanks Ron. I did go ahead and order the bit in case it's needed. Haven't gotten quite that far yet. More little issues.

The new bowl sink and granite countertop/vanity I bought is a bit troublesome. It has curved legs which don't allow it to sit flush with a wall on the right or left (so the granite countertop can't be caulked in, too big of a gap between the right side and the wall) and the existing floor baseboard at the back is also preventing me from placing the back of the vanity against the wall, too (the leg is bumping up against it).

Which leads me to more questions...The granite countertop DOES extend a bit, overhang off the back enough so I can caulk to the BACK wall. Which is fine. I'm not too worried about overflow with the vessel/bowl sink anyway. Second, there's about a 1 inch gap between the back of the vanity and the back wall. Is there a method I can use to secure it or can I just use some longer screws, drywall anchors, and have some space there (the screws won't be visible unless you look behind it anyway).

Thanks for all your help. The toilet is back in with a new seal and working great.

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You can use longer screws, see if you can locate a stud or two, easy of you have a stud finder, vanities are normally secured to the wall
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Ron,

Just figured I would update you on my progress. Things are going well. I managed to chisel off the old stuff from the pipe out of the floor cleanly. I am learning a lot. I purchased a new coupler and reducer for the remaining pipe coming up out of the floor. They went in there SO TIGHT by hand that I can't get them back out to prime and seal them. With them being in so tight, is it ok to do it without the glue? I know it's kind of "against code" but I was considering not using glue on the rest of it either, everything seems to fit so tightly. I guess I could pay for that with leaks but it would stink to have to again break a pipe to remove this thing if it's ever needed. I dunno.

I got the vanity in and secured to the back wall no problem. About to attach the vessel and faucet. Before that, obviously the granite top has to go on there -- Nowhere in the instructions does it say to caulk or seal the granite top to the vanity, it basically just has you laying it on there. Is sealing or caulking still necessary? I may not caulk this to the back wall and can't to the side wall anymore (sticks out too far)...So it is possible that would be the only thing holding the granite top in one place (aside from the pipe coming down from the drain in the center of it.

Thanks SO much for all your advice, I couldn't have come this far without you. I really have learned a lot!

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I purchased a new coupler and reducer for the remaining pipe coming up out of the floor. They went in there SO TIGHT by hand that I can't get them back out to prime and seal them. With them being in so tight, is it ok to do it without the glue?


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No bad idea, you have to glue them on.

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Top could be heavy enough, if you don't want to caulk it down, then don't.
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Thanks Ron, you rule.

So that leads me to a good question -- Now that I have forced the coupler and the reducer cap onto the pipe coming out the floor, how do I get them off? No glue was used but even with a vice grip these things aren't coming off.

I decided to go ahead and try and size things up in the meantime. I'm including a photo of the various pieces I bought and have at my disposal. I'm also showing you a photo of the old glued together piece (on the left) that the last plumber had to do to get down the drain hole.

Not sure if it comes across in the photo, but the drain hole is towards the back of the cabinet (maybe 2 or 3 inches back from where the drain comes down). They are both pretty much centered. Do you have any suggestions on parts/pieces I can use (after I get the proper trap) to route the water down?

I tried using my old trap, by the way, and the plastic seal ring you see there by itself towards the front just doesn't QUITE get on there. It fits fine on the old drain, just won't go around this new drain. Is there a size difference in traps to fit certain drain types? It's literally a millimeter too small from how it feels trying to get it around there. How frustrating! No new trap came with the sink.

Sorry for all the dumb questions, it's my first time doing plumbing that requires changing all the fittings. I really appreciate it.

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This is how I would do this.
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