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BDPNA 01-10-2007 07:35 PM

Laminate Flooring - Is It Installed Under Bathroom Cabinets?
I have a question I am hoping someone in the know can answer -- Of course this can't be with 100% certainty, I am just curious about the standard practice.

I have a sink with cabinet in the corner of a bathroom in my home I am refinishing. I would like to remove the cabinet (which goes all the way to the floor and is just caulked in place from what I can see in the corner). I will replace it with a freestanding cabinet and bowl sink. The question I have is this -- My bathroom has a laminate floor. If I rip out the cabinet, am I likely to discover that the laminate wasn't continued under there and just ends? What is the usual practice? With the new cabinet having legs and not covering the floor, I worry about having an exposed area (and do not want to re-do the floor).

Advice? I'd hate to rip this out and end up having to put it back in. Oh, and are these things typically hooked in with more than just caulk when they are floor to sinktop?



amazinlittledevil 01-10-2007 07:39 PM

In my experience the flooring usually just goes up to the cabinet or vanity. I remodeled several bathrooms and I have never seen the flooring go undernieth the cabinet, not to say someone hasnt done it.

BDPNA 01-11-2007 07:25 AM

Bummer -- Anyone else? I did look at the edges and it looks to AT LEAST go under the vanity by a bit (I don't see it ending at the vanity) but if Devil is right, it ends just under the vanity edges. Shame, too, since it would have only used like another 2x2 piece of cheap laminate. Sigh.

KUIPORNG 01-11-2007 10:02 AM

It should be not too difficult to find the answer from some investigation. If it is outside the cabinet, there must be trims(base line), if it is inside the cabinet, there must be no trims along the edge of the bottom of the cabinet. Do you see trims?

if the answer is no, that means it is under the carbient as well... but there is a slight chance that the guy who build the floor if he knows the part is going to cover by the carbinet, he is not finishing it or do a bad job and who care... like some people tiling behind the stove (I actually talked about my own experience here)...

BDPNA 01-11-2007 10:52 AM

Yeah, I don't see trims, so my only fear now is he went part of the way under, but not all the way. Even if he got close to the wall it's no big deal, since the new vanity will cover the bulk of that corner, I'd just rather not have the entire corner uncovered. I don't see trims though, so it at least goes part of the way under the installed vanity.

Guess it's up to me to rip the thing out if I really wanna know, huh?

KUIPORNG 01-11-2007 12:24 PM

I think it is very unlikely someone will build the floor halfway... I think you are 90% ok...

BDPNA 01-11-2007 05:45 PM

I think if I can get to it I will try and rip it out tonight, so I'll report back with the findings as soon as I do. ;)

The new vanity and sink I am thinking of buying (link above) is nice, but I don't like the lack of a backsplash behind the sink (my current basic white porcelain sink has the backsplash built in). Any ideas on what I could do to substitute (other than wipable paint behind there?)

KUIPORNG 01-12-2007 09:30 AM

You are likely need to do some drywall repairs when replacing the unit.... it is not difficult and inexpensive... mudding/sanding/paint

you can then do some tiling behind the sink to avoid water spill to the wall... it would be little area you need to tile... it is not difficult and inexpensive again...

and I suggest you to rid out your existing unit, to check the condition of the flooring before getting this new unit, in case you need to change to another one which coverup the floor...

BDPNA 01-12-2007 09:43 AM

Thanks for all this great advice. I didn't get the unit out just yet due to yet ANOTHER wrench in the works -- My house is a split level but totally above ground and this bathroom is on the ground floor. So instead of running the drain pipe out the back of the unit and into the wall (which is an outside wall) it runs through a chopped hole in the vanity base, down directly into the floor underneath (off to the left of the drain a bit, it's snaked around all in there). So now I'm going to have to cut a hole in the new vanity (if I choose to buy it) and also risk seeing all that mess underneath it since as you see, the new vanity has legs and is not floor standing.

Drywall repair and sanding is no big deal. I never tiled before so I'm not quite sure how to do that (I gotta get some pics up so you can see the situation).

Maybe this wasn't the greatest idea after all. :icon_confused:

KUIPORNG 01-12-2007 09:52 AM

Don't know if I understand you 100%, but sounds like you said there are holes on the floor underneath the existing unit... if this is the case, no way the laminate looks nice there.... and you shouldn't get such unit which not cover up the flooring..... but I may not know your exact picture...

BDPNA 01-12-2007 04:39 PM

Ok, ready for help once more!

Looks like the laminate goes all the way under and that's good news. And the pipe hole is far enough back that I won't mind it once I put in the new vanity.

Anyway, the problem is this mess you see in the photo from the wacky plumber who did this -- I got as much off as I could by hand, the rest of this feels like it might be glued in or something.

Would there be any harm to just hacksawing this mess off at the base and rebuilding it? Or, should I be able to get this apart with some sort of tool? There's no more threaded screw-caps on the pipe anywhere.

I can't get the vanity out of there until I get that mess of pipe off.


BDPNA 01-12-2007 08:13 PM

Update -- A quick hit with a sledgehammer knocked it right out of there, though it looks like some sort of industrial strength plumbling stuff was used to hook that mess together for sure. I've got a broken piece still lodged into the pipe coming up out of the floor - I can post a picture of it if it might help...How can I get that broken piece out of there so I can replace it right once the new unit is in???

Tmb9862 01-12-2007 10:19 PM

You'll get a better response from someone else on here shortly. That's PVC, and as you suspected it is glued together. In the future a sledghammer and plumbing usually don't go well together.
I would have taken a hacksaw to it down at the bottom and cut it flush with the bottom of the vanity. You then have plenty of pipe still sticking out of the floor to glue a coupler too and make your own "whacky mess" for the new sink.

Ron The Plumber 01-12-2007 10:23 PM

Yea post an after picture.

747 01-12-2007 10:46 PM

it depends on when it was installed before or after the cabinet went in. I have laminate floor under my cabinet because i installed it first then put the toilet and vanity in. Actually i did it like that because i thought it was the easiest way to do it. Any cutting irregularities i could hide under the vanity.

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