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Old 10-09-2011, 03:52 PM   #16
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It would look more like this.
Thats actually a really nice set up I take it u did that AlbacoreShuffle?

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No.
It would look more like this.
Oh, I thought it would be a simple wye like the one (photo) posted by rjniles.

What is the capped center arm for in your photo?
I'm searching now if I can find that 4-armed wye fitting in metal. Home Depot (online) doesn't seem to have it (PVC only). I'll have to call/check the Do-it-best hardware stores here.
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And thanks for the photo AlbacoreShuffle. Everything is so much clearer with photos. I'll take it with me when I go looking for parts.

Darn, I'll have to get two tailpieces since the current ones are too short to go completely down a P trap. There are only 0.5" and 0.75" of the tailpieces to go into the P trap. I wish I have PVC plumbing. They're so much easier to cut but the chromes do look nice and shiny .
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If you want PVC you can do that---cut open the back of the cabinet---cut out the old T--and convert to PVC using a frenco type fitting.

It's not bad if you have a steady hand with a Sawsall---
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I'm going to use PVC on everything, from the tailpieces to the trap arms and double wye.

How will the double wye attach to the threaded metal adapter-wall drain (photo 4 in original post)? The double wye (2 x 1-1/2) has no threads, based on photos I've seen. Is it attached simply with glue/cement or is some form of clamp etc. needed?

The three arms on the other side are also not threaded. So how does one attach the trap arms? What kind of adapter is used to attach the trap arm to the double wye with a slip nut?

I saw a threaded double wye sold by a specialty store but haven't seen it in general hardware stores.
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Threaded adapters are available---however---you are adding length with every fitting--

If it were my job I'd open the wall--remove the steel T --and lower the opening using PVC and rubber Frenco boots.

You may spend hours driving around trying to Rube Goldburg that ---the time would be better spent opening the wall and getting the opening where it belongs.----My 2 cents---Mike---
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Threaded adapters are available---however---you are adding length with every fitting--

If it were my job I'd open the wall--remove the steel T --and lower the opening using PVC and rubber Frenco boots.

You may spend hours driving around trying to Rube Goldburg that ---the time would be better spent opening the wall and getting the opening where it belongs.----My 2 cents---Mike---
Yeah there is like no room from the basket now to the P-trap the drain from behind the wall would have to be moved down.

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Old 10-13-2011, 11:36 AM   #23
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Modifying things behind walls is not that easy when you live in a condo compared to when you live in a house. Jobs like that require that a plumber come in to inspect and describe what he's going to do after he tears down the wall, then I write a "plan" of what he's going to do, submit the plan to the condo management (along with other required papers), management forwards that to the condo association board, condo assoc board meets to approve plan. It would take longer for me to wait for that entire process to end than to spend hours figuring out what to do and hopping through a few hardware stores to gather my materials. The immediate reward of not having to wash dishes in a tiny bathroom sink and being able to use my dishwasher again is worth the hours spent on figuring out and hopping around.

Ta dahhhh.... my new sink drain plumbing:



So far nothing is leaking. I did have to re-tighten a few nuts during my "leak test period". My hands are not super strong so, even with a grip liner, they're feeling a bit stiff from all the exercise. I had to put the branch tailpiece (for my dishwasher hose) horizontally because it wouldn't fit vertically. I borrowed that idea from a few other threads/forums and a dishwasher installation manual I read. I also had to make a 90 degree turn from the right kitchen sink since the wye outlet was at a 90 degree angle to the wall. My plumbing doesn't look too bad, if I may say so myself, considering that the only plumbing-under-the-sink I've done before was remove a P trap twice to retrieve an earring.

I realize this is a temporary fix because, based on other threads/forums, I can't have more than one slip nut between the P trap and the wall drain stub. I'll have to wait to make my permanent fix until I can get a plumber in to assess and for me to submit and get a plan approved by the condo assoc board.

I like the purple bead on my plumbing!

BTW, what happens when the kitchen plumbing is not up to code (e.g., drain outlet higher than valves; more than 1 slip nut between trap arm and wall drain stub)? Is that a finable offense like parking in a no-parking street or expired parking meter? Is that a more serious offense? Which code does Illinois follow?
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No fine--they just make you fix it right and pay for a second inspection---

You don't like opening up the wall?
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No fine--they just make you fix it right and pay for a second inspection---

You don't like opening up the wall?
I wouldnt worry about that until you move out of there.

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