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Old 06-06-2013, 08:19 AM   #16
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IS THERE A PERMIT FROM THE CITY FOR THE WORK?

Someone's got to go to the city to get that permit. Either you pay the contractor to do it or you spend your own time. It's not going to get done for free. Some contractors may chose to roll that into the cost of the job, others might specifically call it out.

Nobody likes sitting around waiting for a bureaucracy to issue paperwork. Some contractors will explain this isn't a productive use of their time. But others will make this claim because they also know their schedule will have to accommodate the time to have an inspector come out. And then there's the question of whether or not their work will pass the inspections. Some already know they're going to half-ass the situation and that it'll never pass. So they'll often mislead the customer about the whole process.

In the end, however, it's up to YOU to see that the process is done correctly. Yes, you can try and fob the blame off on others, but it's up to you to become aware of what's best. You can't blame everyone else for letting you get screwed.

You want to tread very carefully how you talk about the problem here. Once you start talking about thing like 'illegal' you pretty much force the other side to 'lawyer up'. You want this problem solved sooner rather than later. Don't play the 'legality' card too soon.

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Old 06-06-2013, 08:26 AM   #17
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What is the sense of going back and forth with this without good pictures of what was done? You keep going on and on about law instead of posting the pictures. No sense. As far as law goes, NYC Lawyers are 500 bucks and hour and they don't even do anything. You are better off just paying a plumber. I think they are only $450 an hour in NYC.

They must be, a hamburger is 35 dollars at Burger King. Big Apple MyA, Big Ripoff.
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I took a picture of the piece with that valve off. It appears to be a Central Brass part and someone said it was an old diverter valve cover. It has no screw in it.

This is what I am concerned of.
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I mentioned what it does before. It does NOT shut off anything. It seems to only lessen the flow of the shower flow when it is on to a small flow and if I put the sink on at the same time the water flow is increased in the tub drain.

What kind of part in the wall could do that?
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:28 AM   #22
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Valve off? Or do you mean the handle?

What is it's purpose supposed to be? A shut off? And it's not shutting off? Um, that would seem like a no-brainer here...
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:47 AM   #23
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From the pictures you posted, I see nothing that blatantly violates plumbing that I'm familiar with. It all sounds cosmetic or craftsmanship related- but I don't plumb in NY

That valve you reference may be a blending valve to control the max water temp delivered to the fixtures- similar to a shower valve. If it is simply missing a screw- that is simply a punch list item- contact the "plumber". Same for any other missing trim parts.

As for permits or plumbing license- As a contractor, If I remove a p trap I need a plumber- yes it's ridiculous and is never followed. But this is in my State. I have know idea what applies to you.
I suggest you contact you bldg super- or who ever oversees your remodel project, discuss the deficiencies and move forward to all parties satisfaction.
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I have no clue what its purpose is. That is what I am asking here. The sink has 2 brassmaster shutoff valves which work fine.

This other valve is the 2nd valve in the pic I showed you. Someone else told me it looked like an OLD Diverter cap from a Central Brass shower diverter.
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I have no clue what its purpose is. That is what I am asking here. The sink has 2 brassmaster shutoff valves which work fine.

This other valve is the 2nd valve in the pic I showed you. Someone else told me it looked like an OLD Diverter cap from a Central Brass shower diverter.
You won't get a definitive answer to that question here- we can only guess and I gave you mine in the post above. Best to ask the person who was in the cabinet working on the pipes.

If you turn the valve to the left and run the water in the sink- does it change the max or min. water temp?
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I have no clue what its purpose is. That is what I am asking here. The sink has 2 brassmaster shutoff valves which work fine.

This other valve is the 2nd valve in the pic I showed you. Someone else told me it looked like an OLD Diverter cap from a Central Brass shower diverter.
It shuts off the hot water in the faucet as well I noticed with the valve turned all the way to the right as well as reduce the water in the tub by a lot. But the faucet has separate hot and cold shutoffs.

So the reason for this piece makes no sense and it seems to have an old cover on it as well.
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You won't get a definitive answer to that question here- we can only guess and I gave you mine in the post above. Best to ask the person who was in the cabinet working on the pipes.

If you turn the valve to the left and run the water in the sink- does it change the max or min. water temp?
No, it adjusts water flow in the tub and seems to turn off the hot water completely.
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[QUOTE=btdragon;1196222]No, it adjusts water flow in the tub and seems to turn off the hot water.]

I cant understand why this valve would adjust water flow going to the tub as I turn it and why if I have the faucet on in the sink the flow increases again in the tub area.

I noticed the hot water would turn off too as regards to temperature in the faucet. I did NOT check the temperature in the shower when it is on which I will do.
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There appears to be an Air chuck fitting? to the left of the spot from your spotlight in post 18. What the heck is that?

Do you have a dishwasher? Maybe the third valve is for the dishwasher?
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This is in a highrise building also so water flows up through the pipes a long distance.

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