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jazzyj 01-25-2012 02:52 PM

I need triple sump pump setup system
 
I have a sump pit which is really small according to me... its like 18in wide and 25in high. Its really active pit during rainy days and pump runs every 20 secs or so.

I want to make changes so that my basement doesn't flood, like it did 3 times in 2 yrs. I saw a sump pump system at www.basementfloodguardian.com i think its something i want as they say it fits smallest pits. I tried mailing them for quote but no reply :(. How difficult would it be to make something similar at home. Also is there any other company that has 2 electric and one battery pump in such setup that doesn't require to enlarge or modify sump pit?

Any kind of reference to such system or on how to make one at home would be of help for me.

TarheelTerp 01-25-2012 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzyj (Post 834575)
...really active pit during rainy days and pump runs every 20 secs or so.
I want to make changes so that my basement doesn't flood...

Stop right there and back it up a bit...
what have you done about water getting INTO the basement?

foundation grading?
downspout leaders?
how far away from house do the sump outlet pipes go?
dry wells?

Quote:

I saw a sump pump system.
In the event that you do need more pumping capacity...
that doesn't or shouldn't have to mean an additional pit.

jazzyj 01-25-2012 03:12 PM

Well water came into my basement coz once pump broke, second time it was GFI switch tripped due to moisture and third time due to power cut. My home is 2 yr old so it doesnt leak or so just not the correct sump pump setup.

Pump that failed was plastic one, Currently i have cast iron sump pump of 1/3HP. It really doing its JOB well but i am scared in case it fails or power outage.

Basement guardian sump pump setup is something make me feel i should have. Coz it has two regular sump pumps in case primary fails. Second will work. Also there is battery backup sump pump in setup that can run during power outage.

Also i am currently planning on doing landscape grading and extending down sprout

psilva8 01-25-2012 03:14 PM

Why exactly did your basement flood? Did the sump pump become overwhelmed, burn out? What was the cause of the flood?

jazzyj 01-25-2012 03:27 PM

First time it flooded coz when buliders contracter install sump pump he broke flow and was not aware that he broke and basement flooded in first rain.
(Fixed by installing new sump pump and i made sure it was cast iron one)

Second time it flooded coz GFI switch tripped coz it sensed moisture.

Third time it was power cut for 6-7 hours due to bad weather.

concretemasonry 01-25-2012 03:43 PM

Do you have highly efficient exterior or interior drain tile feeding the sump? You just may have a high water table and separate pumps may do the job of pumping the water out.

Multiple connected sumps give a bit of a safety factor if one pump or switch fails. I assume you have a check valve on the discharge of the pump so some water does not flow backward.

It sounds like you do not have enough pumping capacity to evacuate the storm water.

Dick

TarheelTerp 01-25-2012 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzyj (Post 834604)
First time it flooded coz ...

The question is: where does this water come from?

Focus on whatever that answer may be...
rather than the issues of getting it out once it has gotten in.

jazzyj 01-25-2012 04:03 PM

I dont know much on plumbing but i know that pit is in pne corner and there is one pipe that comes in to pit from where water gets into pit. Also it does have check valve installed. And sump water flows away from home into a underground pipe that goes to end of my yard.

TarheelTerp 01-25-2012 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzyj (Post 834632)
I dont know much on plumbing but...

Again... The question is: where does this water come from?

Focus on whatever that answer may be...
rather than the issues of getting it out once it has gotten in.

KStatefan 01-25-2012 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazzyj (Post 834604)
First time it flooded coz when buliders contracter install sump pump he broke flow and was not aware that he broke and basement flooded in first rain.
(Fixed by installing new sump pump and i made sure it was cast iron one)

Second time it flooded coz GFI switch tripped coz it sensed moisture.

Third time it was power cut for 6-7 hours due to bad weather.


That is not why your basement flooded. You need to look at the root cause of why water is getting into your basement.

concretemasonry 01-25-2012 06:10 PM

If you have drain tile they are intended to get the water into the sump (which intentionally inside the house).

First - Check to determine if some fool did not connect the downspouts into an exterior drain tile system and over-load it for a short period.

Second - Make sure the system is operating properly and that the floats and switches are able to work as intended. A power outage, especially in the eastern U.S. may require a battery back-up.

Dick

jazzyj 01-26-2012 11:23 AM

Down sprouts end like 3-4 inches above ground and then there is plastic base on ground below downsprout which is graded away from house like 1-2 foot.

Another thing is my on both side of my home the community grades upward. So i am in center of two uphills. Also when my home flooded due to power outage along with my home there were more than 10 homes more which flooded.

TarheelTerp 01-26-2012 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzyj (Post 835190)
Down spouts end like 3-4 inches above ground ... plastic base ...1-2 foot.
...on both side of my home the community grades upward.
So i am in center of two uphills.

This is called a "swale" and is generally a poor location for a house.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swale_%28landform%29
Post about your grading issues in the landscaping section.

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Also when my home flooded due to power outage along with my home
there were more than 10 homes more which flooded.
If outages happen regularly you should have a source of back up power.
Post about these loss of power issues in the electrical section.

As regards running the sump pump alone when power is out...
(after you do all the ground work you need to deal with)
you might consider a water flow back up pump.

This is one: http://www.basepump.com/Basepump.htm


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