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Old 11-23-2010, 06:18 PM   #1
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I am stumped at how to continue here (P-trap)


So i bought this vanity at a local home inprovement center.
It is an open concept with a glass shelf. Problem being the main from the wall is located too low so where the p-trap sits it is too low and I cant get the shelf in now. I live in a highrise so I cannot open the wall and raise the drain.
I reside in Canada so an s-trap is illegal.
I inquired to get the shelf cut but as it is tempered it would just blow up if they tried. I have attached a couple pictures. I need to gain like 2" here. I dont know if there is a way around this or not.. any suggestions would be helpful.
Chris

Edit. i just put a piece of scrap there to show what height I need to attain.
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Old 11-23-2010, 08:10 PM   #2
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need fittings, if you can tip the drain up with a pair of 22 1/2 degree ells would be best as it will not ruin the venting (siphon the drain).

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Old 11-23-2010, 11:22 PM   #3
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i'm not a big fan of them, but you should see if you can find a bottle trap that would fit. plus, they're designed for exposed applications (supposedly they look better )
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Old 11-24-2010, 07:53 AM   #4
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I'm with the_man on this one. Even if you use 22's your still making a s trap. The reason I say that is most code figures your pipe will be 1/2 to 3/4 full of water which gives you in this case 5/8" vent (1 1/4 pipe divided by 2) that means he can only rise 5/8" from the start of the drain to the ptrap. He has to go up way more than that.
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:00 AM   #5
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What's the height of the drain off the floor?
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:25 AM   #6
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Looks like you have about 2 1/2 inches from the bottom of the trap to the shelf so niehter a bottle trap or a drum trap is going to work. Using 2 45's turns it into an S trap which is illegal and you can't raise the outlet either so... Try a glass company and see if they can cut you 2 now pieces of glass or if they have a diamond saw they can even cut a circle out where the trap hits. Other than that, take the whole mess back and find something with either no shelf or wood.
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Old 11-24-2010, 10:51 AM   #7
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Can you shorten the tailpiece? Hard to tell how much is available from the pictures posted.
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Old 11-24-2010, 02:43 PM   #8
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That looks like a rather large drop from strainer to trap, although I can't really see the bottom of the sink. Most codes have a max drop of 15" from sink outlet to centerline of trap. If it exceeds this already, maybe doing something slightly illegal isn't so much of a problem?????

Best would be to get a new vanity or something custom cut.
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So i bought this vanity at a local home inprovement center.
It is an open concept with a glass shelf. Problem being the main from the wall is located too low so where the p-trap sits it is too low and I cant get the shelf in now. I live in a highrise so I cannot open the wall and raise the drain.
I reside in Canada so an s-trap is illegal.
I inquired to get the shelf cut but as it is tempered it would just blow up if they tried. I have attached a couple pictures. I need to gain like 2" here. I dont know if there is a way around this or not.. any suggestions would be helpful.
Chris

Edit. i just put a piece of scrap there to show what height I need to attain.
if you put a 90 at the wall add a pipe to give you the 2 1/2 inchs then add your p trap if not sure contact me frog1973@hotmail.com thanks steve
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Old 11-25-2010, 08:24 AM   #10
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If he puts a 90 at the wall he will need another 90 above that one and that turns the P trap into an S trap and S traps are not legal.
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Cut into the wall and raise the drain, or get rid of the shelf.
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I live in a highrise so I cannot open the wall and raise the drain.

I reside in Canada so an s-trap is illegal.
Sorry I can't help it, So far so many comments on making either a s-trap or cut into the wall. I believe the answer was stated earlier of either get rid of the shelf, or find someone to cut the shelf.

I hate flaming, and I'm sorry if i trampled over anyone's feelings but it is not polite to not read the entire post before commenting.
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Old 11-27-2010, 04:27 PM   #13
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I should have mentioned that the vanity did come with a bottle trap that did not fit either. NHmaster i did inquire as to how much a new peice of glass with a notch cut out of it would be and he said around $500.
I really appreciate all the feed back guys. It looks like I will just stain a piece of wood. It'll go with the wood part of the vanity and wont look out of place.
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Guys,

If you do a 90 at the wall and a tee on top of the 90. you place the trpa adapter on the outlet of the tee. Place an AAV "studor vent " on top of the tee. You now have a vented s-trap that is totally legal.
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Guys,

If you do a 90 at the wall and a tee on top of the 90. you place the trpa adapter on the outlet of the tee. Place an AAV "studor vent " on top of the tee. You now have a vented s-trap that is totally legal.
I'd say that is the winning idea!

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