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fridgeman 09-12-2007 07:26 AM

Hi all, leaking internal wall..grrrrrrrrrrrr
 
:( HI all, have only been in my new place 6 months and allready the internal wall with the shower on other side has leaked through from some where...
i have removed all the damp palster about 10 inchs up from the bottom along the wall for inspection points. I then used a grout sealer jell in the shower and also silconed between the floor and wall shower tiles and had a leak detector bloke come out and check the internal pipes,no leaks....
All shower taps and shower head have been checked, all ok...
It has been 4 weeks now and the brick where i have removed the damp plaster dose not seems to be drying out, what the hell to do now? the villa is about 24 years old but has has a bathroom reno done about 5 years ago, any help would be appriciated..cheers mitch

Mike Swearingen 09-12-2007 07:51 AM

Try putting a fan blowing on the bricks to dry them out.
(It somehow might be condensation.)
Mike

fridgeman 09-12-2007 08:00 AM

have tried it
 
tried it with an electric fan and the thing pulls like 10 amps so will kill my electrical bill..it went away then after a day the damp came back.. its been 4 weeks now exposed, must be still leaking somewwhere.....?

Mike Swearingen 09-12-2007 01:36 PM

mitch,
I assume that someone has checked for leaking while the shower is actually running? Something may be leaking above the faucet body when the shower is on.
Mike

KUIPORNG 09-12-2007 03:55 PM

try not taking shower for a week or taking shower somewhere else see if still there... if not, it is not from supply need... it could be the shower unit/flooring etc. not seal 100%...

fridgeman 09-13-2007 06:56 AM

cheers for the info guys, not sure not taking a shower for a week would work because it would definatly dry out and i know its coming from the shower cubical somewhere..if i replace the hot and cold taps compleatly to eliminate that proberbitlty and its still leaking, what trades would i have to call out, builder? tiler? ..

KUIPORNG 09-13-2007 10:42 AM

if it is from the shower cubical... you then need to narrow down the leak.... would it leak when the water being turn on or doesn't matter.... so still not takiing shower for a while or take it somewhere else... pour a large bucket of water down the drain hole of the shower... see if it leaks... .. to find out is it because of the draining system alone /drain hole.... if that is fine...then try to use a garden hose to shower water in walls to check fo leak.... etc.etc...

fridgeman 09-14-2007 06:40 AM

kool m8, i get ya, could try that, poor a bucket into the shower every day and not have a shower, then if still leaking then i will know if its the tiles etc or drain ......sounds a good idea....and then can eliminate the taps and head..rekon the wall could take longer to dry out though may have to to 2 weeks, or until i see colour change in the brick.....will have a go, cheers for the info...

Marlin 09-14-2007 06:24 PM

You already have the wall partially open. Why not cut out some more and expose the shower body as well. Then you can be sure that it isn't the culprit.
The next thing you do (which I usually do first) is get someone else to stand wherever you are getting water then go into your shower, take the nozzle and start spraying around. Get all the walls very well, spray your faucets, the tub spout, the trip lever, and the drain from all different angles and spray them very well. Basically spend about five minutes soaking everything in the tub from different angles and see where you're spraying when you get water coming through.

fridgeman 09-14-2007 07:03 PM

Hi all, have decided to add some pics....as you can see it is hard to locate the leak as the dampness is all along both walls...going to buy 2 new complete tap assemblies today and install them..and the re-silicon over the tap covers also...


http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...7-09-15006.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...7-09-15007.jpg

KUIPORNG 09-17-2007 08:33 AM

I agree of opening the wall... as fixing your damage wall is not easier then replacing the whole panel... cut out the whole thing as much as you can so that you can see as much as you can.. once fixed... put back a big piece and do some tapping... drywall is really cheap... don't worry about bigger piece will cost you more... the only thing is tapping you need to concern... but it isn't that out of reach for DIYers either.. you got to do it anyway... fixing the lower portion without tearing things apart would be more difficult if ever doable....

fridgeman 09-17-2007 08:47 AM

Think i will not have a shower and let the thing dry out, if it never drys out i know its the plumbing...if it dose dry out then start off by dumping water down the drain only, if it then leaks i know its the drains, if not i then soke the inside of the shower with hose, if then leaks, i know its the tiles etc....if still dry i know its then from the taps....this process may take time but will be a good process of elimation, with minimal work...anything in the common walls is coverd by my strata fee insurance i pay...

fridgeman 09-19-2007 07:04 AM

Will removing some of the base tiles give me better inspection? if so any tecniuques in removing them will be most helpful? cheers mitch.

Big Bob 09-19-2007 08:46 AM

This might be a shower pan leak / possibly covered by your HO insurance.
Picture shows that water has wicked up the walls. read your policy to see if you are covered.

Remove shoe and base molding. Remove water damaged plaster. You will always have problems with the water damaged plaster so get rid of it now so you can check out the shower pan.
Dry out the area with a fan.

Plug shower drain. Fill shower with water. Wait and watch.:whistling2:

fridgeman 09-19-2007 08:18 PM

Hi there, whats the shoe and base moulding? the skirting board? checked with my strata company, if its the tiles leaking i have to pay, if its internal they will pay...when you mean remove the plaster to expose the pan you mean until i can see then brick...?.. cheers for the reply sounding like good advise than bloody waiting...


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