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Old 01-20-2008, 12:31 PM   #1
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Help with spud washer on toilet flush valve


I am installing a new flush valve on a toilet. The problem I am having is setting the tank back onto the bowl. It will not set properly into the bowl. I am using a new spud washer but also tried using the old spud washer but I can not seem to get it to set in properly before I attach the bolts to tighten tank down. Any advice on what I am doing wrong? Thank you!

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Old 01-20-2008, 01:05 PM   #2
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Is it an American Standard toilet?

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Old 01-20-2008, 01:09 PM   #3
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Yes it is. Tank on top that attaches to the bowl with two bolts. The flush valve has to be centered onto the bowl and that is where I am having the problem. The tank sways back and forth because the spud washer is not setting properly into the hole going into the bowl.
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Old 01-20-2008, 01:17 PM   #4
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Are you using the same exact washer as the one you took off? That is the key with Am. Std. a firmer washer will just cause issues. Many people crack those tanks trying to get it firm.
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Old 01-20-2008, 01:22 PM   #5
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I tried the new initially and then the old one. I am still having problems putting the tank on with the old washer.
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Is the nut on the new one too large to fit in the recess?
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Old 01-20-2008, 01:54 PM   #7
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The nut is the same size as before
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I would put something between the bowl and tank for now to stabilize it and get a new Amer. Std. washer as soon as possible.
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What is a Standard American washer for this? Do you know of a link so I can see if I actually do have the proper washer? Thanks
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The washer is very thick with a recessed area on the side toward the nut. Most normal washers are smaller.
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I am pretty sure I have the correct washer is what is driving me crazy as to why this won't fit into the bowl properly.
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What doesn't fit? The washer is always visible when you look dead on at the seam between the two. It doesn't disappear into the recess of the bowl. There will be space between the two as well.
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I know there will be some space between the two, but this will not even allow me to set the tank into the bowl.

When i first tried this I thought that maybe it was in far enough so I bolted down the tank but the tank was wobbily. I then filled up the tank with water and flushed. There was a leak coming out where the spud washer is so I know it has to seat more securely into the bowl opening, but I just do not know why it is not.
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Old 01-21-2008, 08:24 AM   #14
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Is your new flush valve's threaded end sticking out farther than the original did? If so, it may not allow the tank to move close enough to the bowl. Check to see that the end of the flush valve is not bottoming out before the two pieces mate up.

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