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Old 12-18-2012, 08:41 AM   #16
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Nice Hanger. Were I you, I would watch out for either of these bids. Throw out A. B seems too low for what they are doing.

Your first problem as I see it is your sewer main. It is not sloped to drain. Digging up outside and replacing 10 feet is not going to fix this. I would consider raising everything inside up so you get decent slope and replacing it all with plastic out to the sewer main. I know that sounds drastic but if there is insufficient slope, you are looking at a continual headache.

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Old 12-18-2012, 09:35 AM   #17
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Nice Hanger. Were I you, I would watch out for either of these bids. Throw out A. B seems too low for what they are doing.

Your first problem as I see it is your sewer main. It is not sloped to drain. Digging up outside and replacing 10 feet is not going to fix this. I would consider raising everything inside up so you get decent slope and replacing it all with plastic out to the sewer main. I know that sounds drastic but if there is insufficient slope, you are looking at a continual headache.
I have to agree I don't like the look of that PVC tiein to cast. Maybe it's just the image. Who knows, only the onsite inspection.
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Old 12-18-2012, 10:28 AM   #18
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Yeah, that's a lousy joint between the cast iron and PVC. Since the pipe is back pitched, water sometimes seeps out through the joint and drips into the bucket I have there. It's so gross. But I will definitely ask specifically about if their estimate covers correcting the pitch.

BTW, a question about your signature, COLDIRON. Should I take that to mean if any of these companies do not offer a warranty on their work, that I should definitely not go with them? That's one of the questions I still need to ask company B.
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Old 12-18-2012, 11:06 AM   #19
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Put a bubble (Level) across the two cast iron bells to the left. If that Y is sloped back into your house the only way to fix that is to jack it up. You cant jack anything up because everything is tied in solid. You have to find out where the top of your lateral ties into the main sewer line. Measure the distance back to your foundation in feet, and multiply by .250 (1/4 inch) Thats how much rise you need. They need to dig up at the tie in and set up a scope (level) and replace that line if you don't have the proper fall. This is not rocket science.

As far as warranties go, the contractor will probably warrant HIS WORK. That does not mean what he does is going to work.

The best warranty is to do the darn thing right in the first place, with the right materials then you will never need the warranty.

If you do things wrong, they are going to fail, period. Poop cant read the warranty.
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Old 12-18-2012, 11:17 AM   #20
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Sounds reasonable. The estimate I got includes digging up and replacing that cast iron pipe.
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Old 12-18-2012, 12:16 PM   #21
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It is a good idea for the contractors proposal to clearly state what is not included, as well as what is included, That helps a lot to eliminate the ass-you-me factor. It should also include a time frame, and in your case a unit prices for additional work. In your case, additional pipe. Here, terminology comes into play. The term "Provide" in CSI ( Construction Specifications Institute) lingo means, properly install, and put into service. It includes all materials, labor, taxes overhead and profit for completed work finished in a workmanship manner. You should have a section for landscaping, because your lawn is going to get torn up. Take pictures before they start, and have in your agreement that they will put it back like they found it. This can include Sod, or planting grass in your case, even trees if they kill them. Did you think of all this?
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Yeah, that's a lousy joint between the cast iron and PVC. Since the pipe is back pitched, water sometimes seeps out through the joint and drips into the bucket I have there. It's so gross. But I will definitely ask specifically about if their estimate covers correcting the pitch.

BTW, a question about your signature, COLDIRON. Should I take that to mean if any of these companies do not offer a warranty on their work, that I should definitely not go with them? That's one of the questions I still need to ask company B.
LOL, No that's just me after working on equipment for years and the people want it fixed forever for nothing and have no warranty or if I install someone else's equipment they purchased themselves. Sorry kind of long winded. Test What I would do is cut that vertical PVC and try to refit that PVC to cast with a slight upward tilt if I could then refit that vertical piece and put plenty of water down it to see if it drains proper without leaking. I would try to get that Wye closer to the cast.

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