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Old 04-09-2008, 08:16 AM   #16
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Help! I can't remove a bathtub drain after I broke the crossbars with a wrench


I would back up Mike's suggestions. I had the same problem. The cross inside my drain broke and I had no way to unscrew it. Mine screwed into the drain pipe which created a tight seal by sandwiching the drain pipe and draing fitting around the tub surface.

I have a condo and therefore do not have access underneath nor behind the wall. Once I looked at the replacement drain fitting, I could see that it had external (male) threads and fit into the drain pipe. I ended up using a pair of channel lock pliers that had a sharp outside edge on each jaw. I put the pliers inside the drain and opened the handles up to sort of wedge the outside of the jaws into the bore of the drain. I was able to get a tight enough grip for them to hold and then back the drain out.

Now, this took several tries as it would slip often. If I would have taken Mike's advice to heat it up, it would have loosened the putty underneath which was adhering the drain together. I also like the V-cut advice and slowly tapping it counter-clockwise. It will back out enough where maybe you can grab it with a large pliers.

The new drain came with a large rubber seal (gasket) that fit between the bottom drain pipe and the bottom of the tub surface. I also put some plumbers putty around the flange of the drain for added security. Installing the new drain, I bought the proper wrench for $7 to ensure the drain was tight enought without marring the surface.

Good luck.

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Old 04-10-2008, 09:05 AM   #17
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I would back up Mike's suggestions. I had the same problem. The cross inside my drain broke and I had no way to unscrew it. Mine screwed into the drain pipe which created a tight seal by sandwiching the drain pipe and draing fitting around the tub surface.

I have a condo and therefore do not have access underneath nor behind the wall. Once I looked at the replacement drain fitting, I could see that it had external (male) threads and fit into the drain pipe. I ended up using a pair of channel lock pliers that had a sharp outside edge on each jaw. I put the pliers inside the drain and opened the handles up to sort of wedge the outside of the jaws into the bore of the drain. I was able to get a tight enough grip for them to hold and then back the drain out.

Now, this took several tries as it would slip often. If I would have taken Mike's advice to heat it up, it would have loosened the putty underneath which was adhering the drain together. I also like the V-cut advice and slowly tapping it counter-clockwise. It will back out enough where maybe you can grab it with a large pliers.

The new drain came with a large rubber seal (gasket) that fit between the bottom drain pipe and the bottom of the tub surface. I also put some plumbers putty around the flange of the drain for added security. Installing the new drain, I bought the proper wrench for $7 to ensure the drain was tight enought without marring the surface.

Good luck.
You got lucky, I run across this maybe one out of every ten drains. With the crosshairs in place, I use a drain tool made just for this. I use a 1/2" breaker bar and in most cases struggle to break them loose. You got extremely lucky. Then again it depends where you live. I'm in AZ. where everything dries out. If you are someplace where there is high humidity, the plumbers putty or even tephlon tape stays soft.
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Old 04-10-2008, 02:57 PM   #18
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I guess I was lucky. The drain was so nicked up and scratched that it had to come out. Plus it left so many sharp edges. I do now have the proper tool which was used to reinstall the new drain.

I have heard of others saying to wedge a pair of long nose pliers in the cross hairs, or use two screwdrivers to try and get leverage for unscrewing. I say spend the few bucks on the right tool and avoid the headaches. Plus adding another tool to my arsenal is like an award for a weekender DIY'er. Of course the wife things I make jobs up just to buy the tools... but that is another DIY'er problem.

I guess if I really had to...I could have removed the washer/dryer stackables on the other side of the wall in a tiny closet and busted through teh drywall for access. If I did that however I wouldn't need an additinoal tool

BTW: I am the midwest where humidity is considerable higher than AZ. Just spent a week in Phoenix and couldn't get over how dry the air really is.
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Thank you everyone who took the time to answer my plea for help with my tub drain. I tried twisting out the metal fixture with the X at the bottom and broke it. I tore out several rows of tile to make sure there was no more moisture and took out too much tile but oh well, I'll get a lesson in putting it back in. Does anyone know if I can screw in sheetrock screws to Wonderboard? Can wonderboard go directly on top of the 2x4's that used to hold the sheetrock and tiles? A man at Home Depot told me to put 6 mil plastic on the backside of the Wonderboard. Do I have to mud the Wonderboard at the seams?

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