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Old 04-16-2012, 04:30 PM   #1
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HELP! Broken Shower drain connection to ABS Trap


We removed a sunken tub and installed a shower drain. The trap for the drain was 2" with a 1.5" reducer glued into it with a male thread sticking up.
We hooked up a 2" shower drain to it, however, while attempting to level the floor, the connection broke right at the base of the 1.5" male threaded adapter.
The trap is now under the ground below the slab and attached to the main drain somewhere under the slab in the soil.

How to repair this?

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Old 04-16-2012, 05:34 PM   #2
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Old 04-16-2012, 06:40 PM   #3
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I choose upload image but, the pop-up screen goes blank trying to upload and never recovers.....
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bang bang bang went the hammer
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:19 PM   #5
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The trap is now under the ground below the slab and attached to the main drain somewhere under the slab in the soil.

How to repair this?

Help!

Im trying to upload an image, but it doesnt work......
Cut out the slap and rebuild the drain-- only way
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Hate to be the bearer of bad news but it sounds like it's jackhammer time.

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The Trap is 2" with a 1.5" adapter glued into it. I was able to cut it nicely with a dremel along the top of the trap and remove the adapter.
Is it possible to glue on a 90-elbow 3" on the 2" trap?
Maybe then I could turn it with another 3" 90-elbow to a 3" shower drain.
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The Trap is 2" with a 1.5" adapter glued into it. I was able to cut it nicely with a dremel along the top of the trap and remove the adapter.
Is it possible to glue on a 90-elbow 3" on the 2" trap?
Maybe then I could turn it with another 3" 90-elbow to a 3" shower drain.
Here is the picture.
You might have to remove more concrete but the best fix is to cut behind the trap and extend the horizontal trap arm to where the ptrap needs to be. Then you can glue the drain right on top of the trap.
Using 3" 90's is a bad idea.
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That slab looks about 15 mins of a good wacking with a sledge hammer to get what you need. Go for it! Use your anger!
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More Problems. The trap is connected to the following:
Trap - Street 90 - Tee
The Tee has a vent pipe above it, and a Street Elbow below it. I cannot get to this street elbow because it is below the foundation slab.
I have a schematic showing the problem.
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use one off these at the t to remove street 90 will cost around $30
http://www.pascospecialty.com/catalo..._CATALOG_C.pdf
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Thanks so much Jaydevries. We are trying to find that tool in Houston, TX. Will post updates soon.
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We found the tool and drilled out the male adapter from the p-trap. However, I am a bit concerned that the hub wall thickness may now be too thin and could potentially break.
It measures 3.90mm at the thinnest point. At the same time, it is very difficult to drill out the street elbow from the Tee. We are no sure what is behind the street elbow under the Tee either.
ASTM D2661 says that the nominal thickness of ABS 2" is 0.154 inches which is 3.9mm - exactly that it measures on the hub.
I want to install a street elbow 90 on the P-trap, extend with a pipe and another street 90 to connect to new shower drain. Is that a recommended configuration?
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no that is not correct the trap should be moved so it is under shower drain then a piece of pipe to go straight up into shower drain, this way shower drains correctly and also if ever clogged. a drain snake can be ran through pipe. also you should fill hole back in with dirt to cover trap then add at least 3 inches of concrete leaving 6 inch hole with shower pipe in center of hole. so the bottom of shower is solid around drain. if it is a fiberglass shower read install instructions most recommend setting pan in mortar to firm up bottom and to level, this will also help so shower pan does not crack after a few years of use

also the cut out tool make sure you have correct guide washer for abs. try to keep cutter straight after cutting out pipe sand inside of fitting then use plenty of glue on pipe and inside of fitting so when pipe is pushed into fitting there is a pool of glue around pipe
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We found the tool and drilled out the male adapter from the p-trap. However, I am a bit concerned that the hub wall thickness may now be too thin and could potentially break.
It measures 3.90mm at the thinnest point. At the same time, it is very difficult to drill out the street elbow from the Tee. We are no sure what is behind the street elbow under the Tee either.
ASTM D2661 says that the nominal thickness of ABS 2" is 0.154 inches which is 3.9mm - exactly that it measures on the hub.
I want to install a street elbow 90 on the P-trap, extend with a pipe and another street 90 to connect to new shower drain. Is that a recommended configuration?
I would not install that way ...move trap to under center of shower...

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