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MikeVila 12-18-2008 12:32 AM

Heating Element?
 
All of a sudden with no warning: You have to run the hot water fully opened and cold basically off to take a shower. And the hot water doesn't last no where near as long before it goes COLD. Do I need to replace the element? If so, are they all pretty much standard replacements? Thx. Mike

Marvin Gardens 12-18-2008 03:18 PM

Could be an element but could also be silt in the water heater.

Elements for water heaters are pretty standard. There are a few odd balls out there for some smaller units. Just pull the bad unit out and take it with you to the local water heater element store.

DangerMouse 12-18-2008 04:25 PM

sounds to me like you have a 2 element electric heater?, if so, it's most likely the bottom element that will need replacing. refilling must be done correctly or you'll fry it right out again!

DM

MikeVila 12-19-2008 12:26 AM

It is in a manufactured home also if that would matter? How do I test the elements? Are they easy to remove? Never messed with hot water tanks before but sure will be no problem. I know to make sure it fills up before turning the juice on.

Marvin Gardens 12-19-2008 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVila (Post 200047)
It is in a manufactured home also if that would matter? How do I test the elements? Are they easy to remove? Never messed with hot water tanks before but sure will be no problem. I know to make sure it fills up before turning the juice on.

More than likely the lower one.

Just shut off the electricity, shut off the water, hook up a hose to the drain at the bottom, open the valve, open a hot water faucet to allow air to get in the line and help the draining of the tank. It will take a while to drain. Once it's drained remove the element and take it to the store for the replacement.

Use pipe dope to put the new element in. Reconnect the wire and fill the tank. Turn on the electricity and bled the water lines.

MikeVila 12-19-2008 12:55 AM

Sounds easy enough. Figured that though. Thx for your time.

DangerMouse 12-19-2008 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Marvin Gardens (Post 200054)
Turn on the electricity and bled the water lines.

if you do this, you will need to go back and buy another element!!
open faucets FIRST, fill tank fully! THEN turn on elec.

i believe it's the lower as you say it has hot for a short time, (top heater working ok) but gets cold fast. these symptoms are indicative of a bottom element fault.

DM

MikeVila 12-27-2008 01:30 PM

Can't get it to drain. I took the garden hose off and turned the drain on and water does come out. I hook the hose up and it doesn't seem to be draining. Can't be this slow? Electric off, hot water faucet open all the way, open drain valve.....

MikeVila 12-27-2008 01:41 PM

Need help ASAP!!! Tried opening the pressure relief valve and with it closed. Have 2 hot faucets on. Don't get it. I have a long garden hose running from the drain out the back door and out the yard along a decline and no water has even come out of the end of the hose.

DangerMouse 12-27-2008 01:50 PM

your drain opening likely has calcium/lime buildup. remove hose and open valve. if no water comes out, grab a long screwdriver and dig around.
my friend's did the same thing and that's how i got it to drain.

DM

MikeVila 12-27-2008 01:58 PM

I did and water did come out of the drain. I even hooked the garden hose up outside to see if it was clogged.

MikeVila 12-27-2008 02:07 PM

Tried it again with the hose off and now nothing is coming out. Looks like it may be clogged. I can't seem to get nothing unstuck though. Hard to get a screwdriver to go in cuz it goes in then makes a turn.

MikeVila 12-27-2008 02:31 PM

O.K., draining finally. I don't think it was clogged, more like vapor locked or something. I opened and closed the relief valve and kinda held it in the middle and could hear it gurgling then when I closed it you could hear the water start gushing out. How long does a 40 gallon tank usually take to drain? It's coming out steady at the end.

MikeVila 12-27-2008 03:11 PM

Does it matter which wires are hooked to either side of the element?

MikeVila 12-27-2008 03:25 PM

All done just got to let it heat up. Walked myself right through it LOL. Thx for the help fellas.


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