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Old 01-29-2007, 06:56 PM   #1
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I have an old harden three valve shower set-up. I'm trying to remove the deverter valve but it's stuck.What I'm trying to do is find a puller that fits this valve, I guess? I jerry rigged a puller on another valve because the stem unsrewed but this one is not budging. Holding on to a stem is a mystery to me. Help!

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A picture would be helpful.

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Old 01-30-2007, 05:48 PM   #3
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I think if I could add a picture it would be easier than fixing the faucet. I took the picture but have no idea how to add it to this thread. My picture is too large to send and I can't figure out how to get it smaller without losing quality, Oh well.
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I think if I could add a picture it would be easier than fixing the faucet. I took the picture but have no idea how to add it to this thread. My picture is too large to send and I can't figure out how to get it smaller without losing quality, Oh well.
Open it with MS paint go to Image: Strech/Strew and put the percentage you want to shrink the image in each box. For example if you wanted to make it half the size type 50 in both boxes.
Then go to www.imageshack.us
Uploading the picture is self-explanitory
Once it's uploaded get the direct image adress (all the way at the bottom)
Then come here and type [IM*G]you're image adress here[/IM*G] but omit the asterics.
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Old 01-31-2007, 01:22 PM   #5
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Close -up picture of deverter valve that is stuck
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If you chip away the motor from around that stem, you might see the back side showing the hex that unscrews this, I don't know this brand just taking a guess at this.
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I've added new pictures to show you that I've allready removed the Hex nut. All that is left to do is to remove the cartridge, which is the problem, it won't budge.
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Spray it with penetrating oil or WD-40 and allow it to sit for a short while.
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It should just unscrew from there then, counter clockwise. This is all guessing, like I say, this is not a valve seen around here.
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It acually pulles straight out, I've done this before. Holding onto it and pulling is the problem. This cartridge has O rings so getting it lubed is a problem but what I think I'm going to do is place the oil in the shower head pipe, maybe this will penitrate.
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Attach the handle back on it, use handle for pulling leverage.
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I think your right but I need to jerry rig a puller at the same time. There's to much force needed to pull with your hands and it needs to be an even presure.
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Hi
(I realize this is a stale three year old thread - but I can't seem to private message on this board - so I hope someone will see this and respond)
So did you get this Harden diverter valve stem out or did you just bail and bust that thing out of there and replace the whole valve body???
I have this exact same stuck diverter valve.
I have tried CLR/Lime-a-way down the shower pipe. I have tried penetrating oil.
I tried locking a vise grips on the stem and using a slide hammer with a hook - no go.
My next thought is to try to get some sort of chuck - like the chuck that holds a drill bit on a power drill - or that holds a part on a machinist's lathe. Get that clamped onto the stem, put some wood against the wall and then use two pry bars to lever it out.
Would love to hear if you were successful in removing yours - and if so where you found a replacement stem to purchase (or if you just replaced the o-rings.
(activatedplt@aol.com) or reply here.
Thanks - and I can send you pictures of what your valve body looks like under all that mortar if you're interested...
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Screw the bonnet nub back in the valve body about half way. Clamp a pair of vise grip pliers onto the stem shaft, up tightly against the end of the threaded nipple that covers the stem shaft. Then unscrew the bonnet nut. As you unscrew the bonnet nut the pliers should pull the shaft out.

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that's an interesting and creative suggestion, thanks. Your suggestion would be a good way to apply outward axial force to that stem in a controlled leveraged manner.

I had given up on this over a year ago (as the thread suggests) however I might give this a try.
I have to say, I am less than hopeful though, as:
1) I don't remember for sure but I don't think that the bonnet nut sits proud of the surrounding tile work, i.e. I'm not sure I'll have enough room to get an open end wrench on it, it may be recessed behind the tile a tiny bit.

2) I had previously clamped a visegrips on the stem (farther out) and pulled with quite a bit of force and didn't even come close to budging it. The vise grips just slid down the soft, brass, and (damn it) *fluted* stem and started to gouge it. The fluted grooves make it really hard to get a super firm grip. I'm quite afraid of damaging the stem / or worse snapping it off, as I am less than sure that I can obtain a replacement (it's no longer made). Thus, I was hoping to break the whole thing loose, clean off the corrosion, and maybe find new o-rings.

Thus I was thinking I might get better 'clamping force' with a drill chuck, (preferably a 4or more jaw chuck) - but I haven't found a spare 1/2" or larger chuck to try this yet.

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