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Old 03-30-2011, 11:54 AM   #16
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If the downspout has to go up and over to get into the cistern then the downspout joints need to be sealed to not lose too much water.

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so i would probably need those galvanized pipe downspouts, rather than the corrugated 3x4 ones. Where do you get those at.....and what would be the best way to connect the it to the pvc in the ground
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Oops, I did not mean up and over as being on the surface of the ground but rather up an over as in going uphill and then back downhill like a roller coaster track.

Another oops, you cannot have any uphills in the pipe in cold climate; water will collect in the valley in between and freeze and break the pipe.
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it would be like this



but about 30 feet from the house, and the top of the cistern would be about level with the slab of the house (base of the downspout) and the drain pipes ive been talking about.
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I can't watch video, takes too long on a dialup modem and also crashes my computer sometimes.
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yeah, thats whats really weird about where i live......out in the middle of nowhere,.....yet i have dsl.....

anyways.

In that video.

A down spout hookes into a drain pipe in the ground. The drain pipe goes about 10 feet from the house in the ground. Then 10 feet from the house, is the above ground cistern. The drain pipe in the ground comes out of the ground and goes straight up in the air. It curves over and dumps into the top of the cistern. And the top of the cistern is about between mid way up the downspout and the gutter (to get an idea of the height of the cistern.)
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I am on dialup as well, so watched only pieces of it, and can't say for sure, but it looks to me as if they ran PVC all the way from the eaves trough to the cistern; no aluminum downspouts; so that it is a sealed system, which operates on the simple principle of water seeking its' own level. Sort of what I thought you might have in mind, and, in my opinion, theoretically should work, but a bit hard for us northerners to envision, because here it would remain frozen solid for 3-4 months per year.
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And by the way, if you were to consider something like that, you should probably consider schedule 40 pipe, rather than the lighter weigtht drainage pipe, for the simple reason that with 8-10', or whatever they would be, vertical PVC for downspouts, I can imagine the drainage pipe not holding straight as well, and frankly not looking too good after a year or so. Also, you would have water standing in your downspouts 24/7, so what would that do to the mosquito population around the house between rains. Just some thoughts.
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I am on dialup as well, so watched only pieces of it, and can't say for sure, but it looks to me as if they ran PVC all the way from the eaves trough to the cistern; no aluminum downspouts; so that it is a sealed system, which operates on the simple principle of water seeking its' own level.
That seems to be it. Pretty wild.

I think it's also important that the cistern is really close to the downspout. There's friction when water moves through a pipe -- the further it has to go, the slower it's going to move (gets back to that capacity issue) and that uphill leg will really slow it down.

You can probably keep the mosquitoes out of the pipe with window screen.
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alright, thanks a lot for all the help.

It might be a better idea just to have an underground one.......i have plenty of large holes to fill out around our house....haha

I just really love the look of those corrugated ones, but i could get a smaller one of those for a couple of smaller gutters i have.

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