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Old 10-16-2008, 09:11 PM   #1
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Got a "Joe The Plumber" question


I'm sure by no everyone has heard of "Joe The Plumber".
Now they are giving this guy heat because supposedly in his locality in Toledo he needs a license because he was employed by a guy doing plumbing work.
Does ol' Joe need a license if he is an employee of a plumbing company or if he decided to buy the plumbing company?

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Who is Joe the Plumber?

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Old 10-16-2008, 09:29 PM   #3
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Depends on local ordinances and laws. You'd have to be familiar with his area's requirements.

Here, you can have a plumbing company, a bunch of plumbers, and only one master plumber. That might be the owner, it might be a well-paid staff plumber. Not all plumbers have plumbers licenses.

Good question...
Let's not let this thread become political though please.
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Depends on local ordinances and laws. You'd have to be familiar with his area's requirements.

Here, you can have a plumbing company, a bunch of plumbers, and only one master plumber. That might be the owner, it might be a well-paid staff plumber. Not all plumbers have plumbers licenses.

Good question...
Let's not let this thread become political though please.
No this is for people who know what the code happens to be in that area of Ohio.
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Old 10-16-2008, 10:45 PM   #5
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In Ohio someone, whether it is the company owner or one of the employees, must hold a state contractor's license for plumbing issued by the Ohio Construction Industry Licensing Board (OCILB) in order to pull plumbing permits in the state. In addition, anyone doing plumbing work must either be a journeyman or be under the direct supervision of a journeyman (ie apprentice).

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In Ohio someone, whether it is the company owner or one of the employees, must hold a state contractor's license for plumbing issued by the Ohio Construction Industry Licensing Board (OCILB) in order to pull plumbing permits in the state. In addition, anyone doing plumbing work must either be a journeyman or be under the direct supervision of a journeyman (ie apprentice).

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I think it does. Thanks.
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I served my apprenticeship through Local 50 Plumbers and Steamfitters in Toledo. I was also a Water Service Tech for the City. Permits need to be pulled for all Plumbing work done by a contractor. You must be licensed, or the homeowner, to get a permit. When this is done, an inspector has the right to check the jobsite at any time, and all people working on the job must be either licensed, or, if in a recognised apprenticeship, have a licensed journeyman also on site.
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just an fyi, before we could move in here, i spent a month alone doing all new electric and plumbing and numerous other repairs to pass inspection. i pulled permits and did all the work myself and passed. i am not licenced in either elec. or plumbing. i suppose i was considered an apprentice under the inspectors? =o)

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Depends on local ordinances and laws. You'd have to be familiar with his area's requirements.

Here, you can have a plumbing company, a bunch of plumbers, and only one master plumber. That might be the owner, it might be a well-paid staff plumber. Not all plumbers have plumbers licenses.

Good question...
Let's not let this thread become political though please.
Actually, since all laws and all regs are made by politicians... and most if not all codes are political, and anyone bringing up a plumbing license issue because of Joe's question to Obama about him raising his taxes... and now the possibly of he not having a Plumbing License, we ALL are already into politics in this thread simply with the mention of "Joe the Plumber".
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MdangermouseM, Homeowners can do their own work and draw permits. The work must be inspected. You were quite legal and not considered an apprentice, but a home owner. Joe would need to get a Master Plumbers license to own the shop. Some States allow a person to work under someone elses license. When I lived in Florida, a contractor I worked for did this. Ohio has a very unique and non-political testing facility for determining codes. Drainage codes are approved or disapproved by setting the system up in glass pipe and testing it 100 times. If it fails once, it is not included as a code installation.

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