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01-11-2013, 12:49 PM
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Roofmaster
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Joe is being nice......
I'm just a simple DIY home owner....and even I'm thinking "Oh crap!".
Besides what Joe pointed out....
No drip leg on the gas line...
Ya know, the replacement would be a lot easier if you had flex lines for both the water and gas.
This is what my water line connections look like. If I had to swap out my tank, it would take me longer to drive to the store to get it than it would to swap it out.

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That flue pipe looks pretty close to combustible material to me, my friend, especially for a single wall pipe. You need to re-think that one, IMO
Also, I assume you have a louver going in near the bottom for air intake?
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01-11-2013, 01:17 PM
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JOATMON
Join Date: Aug 2011
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Originally Posted by jagans
That flue pipe looks pretty close to combustible material to me, my friend, especially for a single wall pipe. You need to re-think that one, IMO
Also, I assume you have a louver going in near the bottom for air intake?
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I'm fine....it's single wall up to the first elbow then goes double wall all the way up.
Vent? You mean like this?
I made my own cabinet...14g aluminized steel.
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01-12-2013, 05:28 AM
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Its a straightforward in stall for a plumber. Doesn't get any easier then your set up. I don't know where your at. I would think 7-800 installed. 1 hour job. Where i live i could sit it out on garbage day it wouldn't make it to the garbage man. There is black guy who comes around early a.m in pickup looking for stuff like this.
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01-12-2013, 08:37 AM
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Even double wall should be a couple inches from wood IMO, but very nice work otherwise. Keeping spiders out of the intake could be challenging though, they are gonna love the heat down there, Like Club Med for Arachnids
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01-12-2013, 08:49 AM
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Master Plumber
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Every time i see a water heater installed with those flexible lines connectors i go off the chain these are the biggest  rigs, sloppy unprofessional and eventually they will leak. Oh by the way 1000 bucks is a great price we we would charge about 1400 the install would need to be brought to code and permits pulled every time on gas this keeps me clear on liabilities if the heater should ever have a major problem that involved loss of life or damages.
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01-12-2013, 10:29 AM
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That price is also including the cost of a proper permit being pulled.
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01-12-2013, 10:45 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Idaho, US
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Originally Posted by Javiles
Every time i see a water heater installed with those flexible lines connectors i go off the chain these are the biggest  rigs, sloppy unprofessional and eventually they will leak.
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I dunno, compared to the royal pain of hard piping, it's worth the small risk. Besides, if water conditions are gonna pinhole flex lines, hard pipes will eventually pinhole too.
I would always replace flex lines when replacing a WH though.
But, I guess hard piping makes homeowners more likely to call a plumber, so I suppose it's a money-maker for the pros.
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01-12-2013, 10:56 AM
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JOATMON
Join Date: Aug 2011
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Originally Posted by jagans
Even double wall should be a couple inches from wood IMO, but very nice work otherwise. Keeping spiders out of the intake could be challenging though, they are gonna love the heat down there, Like Club Med for Arachnids

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Code here is 1" min. I'm actually almost 2" from any wood....and though it's not obvious, the inside of that closet is lined with 5/8" Type X drywall..
One of items on my 'list' is to put a cover over the hole where the pipe transitions into the troft going up to the roof.
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Every time i see a water heater installed with those flexible lines connectors i go off the chain these are the biggest  rigs, sloppy unprofessional and eventually they will leak. Oh by the way 1000 bucks is a great price we we would charge about 1400 the install would need to be brought to code and permits pulled every time on gas this keeps me clear on liabilities if the heater should ever have a major problem that involved loss of life or damages.
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We live in earthquake country....a hard piped line is more likely to crack something when things start shaking....Flex is the standard here. I really doubt mine will ever leak....
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01-12-2013, 01:47 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2012
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Originally Posted by Javiles
Every time i see a water heater installed with those flexible lines connectors i go off the chain these are the biggest  rigs, sloppy unprofessional and eventually they will leak. Oh by the way 1000 bucks is a great price we we would charge about 1400 the install would need to be brought to code and permits pulled every time on gas this keeps me clear on liabilities if the heater should ever have a major problem that involved loss of life or damages.
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In my area we are required to have a certain amount of flex in the pipes at the water heater be cause almost all houses here have bentonite under the foundations which will expand and shrink causing the basement floors to move. So we often like to use the flex line however there are other ways
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01-12-2013, 04:57 PM
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Master Plumber
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[QUOTE=tylernt;1091682]I dunno, compared to the royal pain of hard piping, it's worth the small risk. Besides, if water conditions are gonna pinhole flex lines, hard pipes will eventually pinhole too.
pin holes on M/K/L ? have you seen the gauge on those copper flex hoses,
In my opinion its called lazy, and as for earth quakes foundations settling, men from mars rocking the water heater, has anybody ever heard of expansion couplings.??? aka flex couplings aka anti vibration coupling. among other names .
i remember the days if a plumbing inspector found you failed to wipe down a solder joints he,d fail you on the spot, it was called workmanship. dead and gone thats why the trade has gone to s
Copper flex couplings used by DIY acceptable by supposed professional plumbers i don't think so. but that's my humble opinion
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01-12-2013, 05:46 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Huntsville, AL USA
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Originally Posted by HVACTECH96
That price is also including the cost of a proper permit being pulled.
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You need a permit to replace a water heater?
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01-13-2013, 02:58 AM
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Location: Illinois (kankakee county)
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Originally Posted by fa_f3_20
You need a permit to replace a water heater?
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NO permit needed where i live. I guess some municipalities want to reach into your wallet every chance they can. I had my water heater replace two years ago. I think 7-8 was the bill.
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