Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Plumbing

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 01-11-2013, 11:49 AM   #16
Roofmaster
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Maryland
Posts: 3,535
Share |
Default

Gas water heater installation


Quote:
Originally Posted by ddawg16 View Post
Joe is being nice......

I'm just a simple DIY home owner....and even I'm thinking "Oh crap!".

Besides what Joe pointed out....

No drip leg on the gas line...

Ya know, the replacement would be a lot easier if you had flex lines for both the water and gas.

This is what my water line connections look like. If I had to swap out my tank, it would take me longer to drive to the store to get it than it would to swap it out.

That flue pipe looks pretty close to combustible material to me, my friend, especially for a single wall pipe. You need to re-think that one, IMO

Also, I assume you have a louver going in near the bottom for air intake?

__________________
" A lot of men build things, and a lot of things fall down "

jagans is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2013, 12:17 PM   #17
JOATMON
 
ddawg16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: S. California
Posts: 7,086
Default

Gas water heater installation


Quote:
Originally Posted by jagans View Post
That flue pipe looks pretty close to combustible material to me, my friend, especially for a single wall pipe. You need to re-think that one, IMO

Also, I assume you have a louver going in near the bottom for air intake?
I'm fine....it's single wall up to the first elbow then goes double wall all the way up.

Vent? You mean like this?

I made my own cabinet...14g aluminized steel.

__________________
"The dream is free but the hustle is sold separately."

My 2-Story Addition Build in Progress Link ... My Garage Build Link and My Jeep Build Link
ddawg16 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2013, 04:28 AM   #18
747
registered
 
747's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Illinois (kankakee county)
Posts: 1,330
Default

Gas water heater installation


Its a straightforward in stall for a plumber. Doesn't get any easier then your set up. I don't know where your at. I would think 7-800 installed. 1 hour job. Where i live i could sit it out on garbage day it wouldn't make it to the garbage man. There is black guy who comes around early a.m in pickup looking for stuff like this.
747 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2013, 07:37 AM   #19
Roofmaster
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Maryland
Posts: 3,535
Default

Gas water heater installation


Even double wall should be a couple inches from wood IMO, but very nice work otherwise. Keeping spiders out of the intake could be challenging though, they are gonna love the heat down there, Like Club Med for Arachnids

__________________
" A lot of men build things, and a lot of things fall down "

jagans is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2013, 07:49 AM   #20
Master Plumber
 
Javiles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Miami Florida
Posts: 1,329
Default

Gas water heater installation


Every time i see a water heater installed with those flexible lines connectors i go off the chain these are the biggest rigs, sloppy unprofessional and eventually they will leak. Oh by the way 1000 bucks is a great price we we would charge about 1400 the install would need to be brought to code and permits pulled every time on gas this keeps me clear on liabilities if the heater should ever have a major problem that involved loss of life or damages.
__________________


Experience is Knowing what to do next, Skill is knowing how to do it

http://www.americandrain.net

Last edited by Javiles; 01-12-2013 at 07:55 AM.
Javiles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2013, 09:29 AM   #21
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Lansing,MI
Posts: 169
Default

Gas water heater installation


That price is also including the cost of a proper permit being pulled.
HVACTECH96 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2013, 09:45 AM   #22
Special User
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Idaho, US
Posts: 551
Default

Gas water heater installation


Quote:
Originally Posted by Javiles View Post
Every time i see a water heater installed with those flexible lines connectors i go off the chain these are the biggest rigs, sloppy unprofessional and eventually they will leak.
I dunno, compared to the royal pain of hard piping, it's worth the small risk. Besides, if water conditions are gonna pinhole flex lines, hard pipes will eventually pinhole too.

I would always replace flex lines when replacing a WH though.

But, I guess hard piping makes homeowners more likely to call a plumber, so I suppose it's a money-maker for the pros.
__________________
The above post is for entertainment purposes only. Its contents may, and probably will, lead to legal liability and damage or loss of property, life, or limb. Use at your own risk.
tylernt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2013, 09:56 AM   #23
JOATMON
 
ddawg16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: S. California
Posts: 7,086
Default

Gas water heater installation


Quote:
Originally Posted by jagans View Post
Even double wall should be a couple inches from wood IMO, but very nice work otherwise. Keeping spiders out of the intake could be challenging though, they are gonna love the heat down there, Like Club Med for Arachnids

Code here is 1" min. I'm actually almost 2" from any wood....and though it's not obvious, the inside of that closet is lined with 5/8" Type X drywall..

One of items on my 'list' is to put a cover over the hole where the pipe transitions into the troft going up to the roof.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Javiles View Post
Every time i see a water heater installed with those flexible lines connectors i go off the chain these are the biggest rigs, sloppy unprofessional and eventually they will leak. Oh by the way 1000 bucks is a great price we we would charge about 1400 the install would need to be brought to code and permits pulled every time on gas this keeps me clear on liabilities if the heater should ever have a major problem that involved loss of life or damages.
We live in earthquake country....a hard piped line is more likely to crack something when things start shaking....Flex is the standard here. I really doubt mine will ever leak....
__________________
"The dream is free but the hustle is sold separately."

My 2-Story Addition Build in Progress Link ... My Garage Build Link and My Jeep Build Link
ddawg16 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2013, 12:47 PM   #24
Experienced HVAC Tech
 
HVAC1000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Northern Colorado
Posts: 357
Default

Gas water heater installation


Quote:
Originally Posted by Javiles
Every time i see a water heater installed with those flexible lines connectors i go off the chain these are the biggest rigs, sloppy unprofessional and eventually they will leak. Oh by the way 1000 bucks is a great price we we would charge about 1400 the install would need to be brought to code and permits pulled every time on gas this keeps me clear on liabilities if the heater should ever have a major problem that involved loss of life or damages.
In my area we are required to have a certain amount of flex in the pipes at the water heater be cause almost all houses here have bentonite under the foundations which will expand and shrink causing the basement floors to move. So we often like to use the flex line however there are other ways
HVAC1000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2013, 03:57 PM   #25
Master Plumber
 
Javiles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Miami Florida
Posts: 1,329
Default

Gas water heater installation


[QUOTE=tylernt;1091682]I dunno, compared to the royal pain of hard piping, it's worth the small risk. Besides, if water conditions are gonna pinhole flex lines, hard pipes will eventually pinhole too.

pin holes on M/K/L ? have you seen the gauge on those copper flex hoses,

In my opinion its called lazy, and as for earth quakes foundations settling, men from mars rocking the water heater, has anybody ever heard of expansion couplings.??? aka flex couplings aka anti vibration coupling. among other names .

i remember the days if a plumbing inspector found you failed to wipe down a solder joints he,d fail you on the spot, it was called workmanship. dead and gone thats why the trade has gone to s

Copper flex couplings used by DIY acceptable by supposed professional plumbers i don't think so. but that's my humble opinion
__________________


Experience is Knowing what to do next, Skill is knowing how to do it

http://www.americandrain.net

Last edited by Javiles; 01-12-2013 at 04:00 PM.
Javiles is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2013, 04:46 PM   #26
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Huntsville, AL USA
Posts: 229
Default

Gas water heater installation


Quote:
Originally Posted by HVACTECH96 View Post
That price is also including the cost of a proper permit being pulled.
You need a permit to replace a water heater?
fa_f3_20 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2013, 01:58 AM   #27
747
registered
 
747's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Illinois (kankakee county)
Posts: 1,330
Default

Gas water heater installation


Quote:
Originally Posted by fa_f3_20 View Post
You need a permit to replace a water heater?
NO permit needed where i live. I guess some municipalities want to reach into your wallet every chance they can. I had my water heater replace two years ago. I think 7-8 was the bill.

747 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Installation and support of water heater expansion tanks. Homerepairguy Plumbing 46 01-28-2013 05:55 AM
Turning off hot water to fix 1/2 inch CPVC pipe in crawl space steve3847 Plumbing 21 12-20-2012 01:53 AM
Hot water heater installation Nospammer Appliances 7 06-22-2011 07:12 PM
Poor Hot Water Pressure After HW Heater Flush linuxrunner Plumbing 4 04-07-2011 07:24 PM




Top of Page | View New Posts

Copyright © 2003-2014 Escalate Media. All Rights Reserved.