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Old 12-07-2009, 05:37 AM   #16
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Go with the 50 gallon, well worth the extra $.

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Will the standard one actually go 10 years without needing service.
One unscheduled service call would mean the high efficiency one would have paid for all or part of the cost of a service call.

Just another way to look at it.
Does the High efficiency unit have circuit boards? I'm not sure about the BW high efficiency models but if so, there is more that can go wrong (circuit board wise) with a high effieciency unit.
A standard water heater has no electronics.
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What about the size? I googled gas hot water heater sizing and found this chart on lowes.com...

Water Heater Size Chart
People Gallons
2 30-40
3 40
4 40-50
5+ 50-80

Bradford White has a sizing chart on their website and the chart recommended 50 gal. I will call the guy tomorrow and get a price on a 50 gal unit. From what I understand, there is not much of a price jump going from 40 gal to 50 gal. My wife and I shower every morning. The kids shower at night. When the young ones get older, I am sure that they will take longer showers My wife does 3 loads of laundry every Sunday and we run the dishwasher once a week (sometimes less). Can't hurt to go with a 50 gal unit?
My 40 gallon BW cycles in about 25 minutes, it will do two showers in a row before I need to wait.
If I do hot laundry while my wife is in the shower and I shower directly after, my shower would be luke warm.
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Do you know which model(s) your plumber is referring too? There are many.
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Yes. HE models have circuit boards.

But I've changed out quite a few gas valves on standard models.

Circuit board reliability has improved over the years.

How many times do you change out the Emission Control Module in your car? Its far more complicated then that of a water heater control.
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Thanks. I have decided on a 50 gallon, 6 year warranty unit. Is it worth it to spend the extra money for the high efficiency unit? With the $50 rebate, the high efficiency unit is only $50 more based on 40 gallon unit prices. I will get prices for 50 gallon units.
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The only BW water heater that is listed as High Efficiency (at least in the name) is a 60 gallon model.
http://www.bradfordwhite.com/products_list.asp?id=1 The rest are Energy Saver.
Make sure you know what the difference is before you give him the go ahead.
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Update: I briefly spoke to the guy this morning. He recommended that I go with a 50 gallon unit since my kids will probably use more water when they get older, longer showers The price for the regular (quote..."vented through the chimney with aluminum vent") 50 gallon unit is $800 and the higher efficiency unit is $880. The higher efficiency unit qualifies for the Residential Gas Water Heater $50 rebate through my utility company PECO which expires 12/31/09...

http://www.peco.com/NR/rdonlyres/C9F...pdate_L01A.pdf

The 50 gallon higher efficiency unit for $830 (after $50 rebate) seems like the best bang for my buck.
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Have you considered replacing the HW tank with an on-demand system?
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Simple is beautiful. Go non electronic.
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Probably not worth the extra $200 for 4 more years of warranty in my opinion. My current hot water heater is a 5 year unit and it is still running strong after 17-18 years.

Now, what about regular efficiency vs. high efficiency? The 50 gallon high efficiency unit for $830 (after $50 rebate) seems like the best bang for my buck. It's only $30 more than the regular efficiency unit after the rebate. The rebate expires 12/31/09, so I might as well take advantage of it now. The unit must be ENERGY STAR qualified, high-efficiency, .62 EF rating or greater in order to qualify for the rebate.
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I am going to have the BW hot water heater installed next week. I have decided on the high efficiency model (ENERGY STAR qualified, high-efficiency, 0.62 EF rating or greater to qualify for the $50 PECO rebate). I am still debating on whether to go for 40 gal or 50 gal. 40 gal is just right for my situation (2 1/2 baths, whirlpool tub which I rarely use, 2 adults and 2 kids) according to the sizing charts online. You guys said go for the 50 gal unit. The 50 gal heater is $80 more, no big deal to me. Will the 50 gal heater be overkill?
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Not when or if those 2 kids are teenagers.
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True. My kids are 6 1/2 and 4 1/2, so I have a ways to go. They generally take showers or baths at night. My wife and I generally take showers in the morning. 40 gal is ideal now, but you never know in the future...
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I would go with the 40 GAL if theres a problem with hot water later everyone just has to adjust to a timing schedule.

Now if your planning on using that Whirlpool that's a different story, 50 or better.

Why heat up 10 extra gallons of water for the next 15 years unless needed.

Of course it's just an opinion, your choice.

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