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blackcheetah 01-16-2012 07:10 AM

fork stuck in kitchen garbage disposal and unjammable
 
new to this forum. searched the forum but no avail.

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i believe there is a fork stuck in my garbage disposal and i've tried using the hex wrench to unjam, but it won't budge. also tried sticking a stick in there to unjam it, won't budge. then put my hand down there, felt nothing sticking out and it won't budge. electrics work as it hums when i throw the switch.

water is backed up in it and there's a bunch of old grease and goo that has been sitting there while i waited for the water to trickle down. however that has come to a stop.

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i feel my last resort is to call a plumber. how much do you think he would charge for a job like this?

my other option is to buy a new disposal unit and install myself and hopefully save some money.

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if there's water in the disposal unit, and i decide to replace myself, is there any precautions i need to take so i don't get week old grease, goo, all mixed with failed draino attempts, all over myself and the kitchen floor and cabinets?

this grease is a rare form of goo that doesn't come off with degreaser. i guess some type of biological organism has grown on it or something. definitely some of the most disgusting substance i've ever had to handle.

and can anyone recommend a decent degreaser so i can cleanse myself of week old bacon grease/draino/fungus concoction?

please help.

oh'mike 01-16-2012 07:17 AM

They are usually quite simple to remove from the sink---what brand is it?

Often removing from the sink--turn it up side down and work the hex key back and forth will free up the unit.

As to the water? Towels in the cabinet bottom---and a pan to catch the water---that does it--

Post a picture if you can---lots of members have pulled out bad disposers--you will get help--Mike--

blackcheetah 01-16-2012 07:39 AM

don't know the brand. pretty sure any labels or model numbers are on the backside of the unit. but it's brown.

by the way i live in an apartment.

thanks for the input. i'll try to get a picture of it soon.

oh'mike 01-16-2012 07:44 AM

Land lord should take care of that for you---

Look up at the sink/disposer connection----does it have a silver metal ring with three round openings about the size of a phillips head screwdriver?
If so--it's an In-sinkerator brand--(or one they made with a different name)

blackcheetah 01-16-2012 08:05 AM

yes it does have the metal ring with three round openings. but it's brown and i couldn't find any brown insinkerators online. i'll try to post a photo soon.

i was considering telling my landlord, but he's an old guy and i figured if i could do it cheap then it'd be good to learn how to do it at least once. and save him from having to stress over it.

if it was going to require like $300 for a plumber, that's when i'd bug him and have him cover the costs.

thanks for the input.

oh'mike 01-16-2012 08:18 AM

That's an In-sinkerator They are made under dozens of different brands---

Get some towels and a small bucket---Un screw and remove the P-trap if it has one--or remove the two screws holding the metal ring holding the drain pipe to the disposer--there is a rubber washer in that hole--do not loose it,

Next--drop the unit--Stick a screw driver into one of the three rings on the collar --Pull clock wise on the screw driver---while holding the thing up---1/4 turn and the disposer is free---

Dump it upside down--start working that hex key---

I'm off to work soon---but many others here know how to do this---it's not brain surgery.

oh'mike 01-16-2012 08:26 AM

If you find that the unit is dead---get another in-sinkerator of the same size--they do make some big 'fat boys' that often require repiping under the sink--

You will also need a small tub of plumbers putty---

I always replace the P-trap and any old stuff at the same time--but you could reuse the olds if you wish to take a chance on the old stuff ---Mike---

blackcheetah 01-16-2012 08:31 AM

thanks a lot mike. that's very helpful.

so if i remove the disposal unit and bring it down upright, will the liquid that's currently backed up in the unit stay in the unit? or will it spill out the sides? my main concern is the mess.

not sure how high the walls of the disposal unit go where it connects to the sink.

Javiles 01-16-2012 08:32 AM

You should be able to replace that unit yourself turn to you tube they have some good DIY tutorials in replacing disposals. As for the water mixed with acid, use gloves a wet vac and towels. If the drain o has been sitting in that unit for more than a couple days you probably started the end of that disposal. Try and get the same model so the connections will line up as much as possible.

blackcheetah 01-16-2012 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Javiles (Post 824240)
If the drain o has been sitting in that unit for more than a couple days you probably started the end of that disposal.

i used the draino when the water was still going down, but very very slowly. however it was draining.

after using the draino is when the water stopped almost completely. it still does drain, but takes a few days just to drain maybe a cup or two. don't know if it was the draino that did it in, but i haven't put anything else down there or run the unit since.

thanks for the input.

oh'mike 01-16-2012 08:40 AM

Once the drain pipe is removed the unit will only have a dribble of water in it---The P-trap will have a cup or two of water in it--catch that with a pan---

Excellent suggestion on the Youtube videos--

blackcheetah 01-16-2012 08:55 AM

is there any way to flush the ptrap down the drain? or will i have to empty its contents out manually? is emptying it out necessary?

oh'mike 01-16-2012 09:29 AM

A picture would help--but --yes you need to dump it out--not a big deal ---put a pan under it---wear rubber gloves if you don't want to get slimed--:laughing:

Alan 01-16-2012 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by oh'mike (Post 824290)
A picture would help--but --yes you need to dump it out--not a big deal ---put a pan under it---wear rubber gloves if you don't want to get slimed--:laughing:

Definitely wear gloves if you know there's drain-o in there. :furious:

blackcheetah 01-16-2012 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan (Post 824314)
Definitely wear gloves if you know there's drain-o in there. :furious:

well the thing is there are two sinks. the one without the disposal unit works fine. the one with the disposal unit does not flow, or flows extremely slowly.

i believe the draino has cleared the drains as it did go down the sink, although very slowly. the clog happened maybe a day after i put the draino in. i tried running more water down that sink, and eventually it just backed up and wouldn't go down as fast. i'm not sure if it was the draino that did it, but i'm assuming so as i didn't put anything else down that drain.

i've watched the youtube videos about replacing it and in these videos, the pipes attach to the disposal unit on the front or side. under my sinks, my pipes attach to the drain unit on the back. also there is a huge water filter on the side of it. so maybe doing it myself may be a little more difficult than i thought. anybody know how much a job like this would cost me if i got a plumber? i'm in los angeles.

thanks for all the help.


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