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Old 08-23-2013, 11:22 AM   #16
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Sometimes you have to know when your in over your head. Drilling for wells is not something that should be taken lightly and is definitely not DIY... Hire a pro..


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Old 08-23-2013, 12:19 PM   #17
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Please understand all of the health implications from you contaminating the water table here. Even if your "agricultural" well doesn't pull from that level of the aquifer, perhaps your neighbor's well does. If someone is able to trace back the contamination of their well to your DIY efforts, what do you think will happen in sue happy America?
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Old 08-23-2013, 09:05 PM   #18
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EPA will fine the heck out of him.
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Old 08-23-2013, 09:46 PM   #19
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I grew up with wide, shallow wells. I mean the casing was maybe 3' across and they were less than 50' deep. They had submersible pumps in them and pressure tanks and switches in the house.

Then I had a place with a large diameter casing maybe 5' deep, then a smaller diameter casing within that, which again wasn't very deep. I think this was called a sand point well because it was in a sandy area near a river and I suppose that sand is full of water. It had a tube in it, and a jet pump and pressure tank and switches in the house.

I think people generally prefer a submersible pump because you won't hear it.

Problem is, when it goes bad, you have to fetch it from the well.

As I recall, from one well that I was involved with, the submersible hangs on the black pipe from a saddle, which connects it to the line going into the house. So the "saddle" is like a big "V" which fits snugly into a smaller "v" and gravity and some seals hold them in place. In order to remove the pump, you pull the two apart. There is also an electrical line going down there as well. You have to have some helper to get that plastic line out of there without kinking it. You can imagine taking 50' of steel pipe out if you don't un-couple it as you go.

Anyway, what I wanted to point out to you is that you can keep your pump and what not in the well head, or the larger casing above the smaller casing. There will be enough heat there to keep it from freezing.

Be careful in that well head area. Every now and again, someone is working in a confined area like this and they are overcome with some gases, then someone goes in to get them and they die, then the wifey comes to check on them for lunch and she goes down there and dies as well. Sooner or later they start to reek and the authorities arrive and find some very hungry children in the house.

I'm not sure how to proceed in such a case. First thing is to remember that in situations like this, send the apprentice down there. But I'm not sure how to get the apprentice out. You never want to send the spotter down there. So I guess just have them on a harness and have a way to lift them out very quickly.
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Old 08-24-2013, 07:47 AM   #20
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Just another reason to hire a pro for any well work. They at least will be trained in confined-space procedures (or should be).

In over 30 years of having wells, I've never needed to pull a pump. My current well is 750 feet deep with the pump set at 700, so if it ever needs pulling, trust me, somebody else is going to do it.
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Old 08-24-2013, 11:51 AM   #21
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I think people generally prefer a submersible pump because you won't hear it.
No. The most common reason for the submersible pump is that the water level is more than 25 feet below the pump. You can't suction water more than 25 feet reliably and have decent flow.

The 25 foot number reduces with altitude.
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Old 12-29-2013, 08:24 PM   #22
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Sorry I have not kept up with the updates of this thread. We were able to re-drill the well in a few minutes and was able to sink the well casing. I air pimped the well and have found that the water that is down there does not replenish fast enough to do any good for my application. We had an extremely dry season last year so now that I have a cased well, I can just continually check water levels and replenishment rates.

As far as hiring a pro to drill your well: if you have the money or no will, then hire it. I was in contact with a professional driller who actually came over to the site when we were drilling as he was curious of the homemade drill rig. He commented to me after I air pumped the well that with no data for my area, he would have had to just drill a well to see what was down there and where water was. He drilled a test well for the high school about a mile from me and he actually ran into granite at 100' and there was not enough water to irrigate their grounds so it was just considered a test site.

I have not given up on this project yet as I have a lot of time in this with less than desirable results and I'm too stubborn to give up at this point as always, I welcome comments and questions.


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