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Old 06-14-2008, 10:11 AM   #16
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Not trying to change the subject but what if you have a 3 gallon tank toilet. What kind of flapper do you use? Do they still sell 3 gallon flappers? What about the fluidmasters?

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did you look between the bowl and tank yet?
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Old 06-14-2008, 01:49 PM   #18
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I sure did and there is nothing. As for toys, doubtful as I have no kids, unless the dog put his toy in there... LOL I also reinstalled these toilets about a year ago when I moved into this house and I did a complete detailed cleaning to them outside since they were not SOOO clean. I am trying to post some videos so you can see better what I mean. I just bought another recommend flapper at Homer and what I see is that there are a lot of air bubbles come up the drainage where the flapper closes which seems to be holding up the flapper until the tank completely drains. If I go ahead and push the flapper down, it closes and flushes just fine. As soon as I have the videos online I will send the link. Thanks again
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Here is the videos:
Tank during one single flush:


Toilet during one single flush:


Let me know what you think is the solution or issue here... Thanks again for all your help.
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should not be air coming out of there..... water should flow through freely. Maybe your rim jets are clogged, not allowing water to flow through rapidly enough?
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How do you unclog rim jets?
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grab a pocket mirror to inspect them, and you can ream them out with anything small and stiff that will fit inside the holes.
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I think with the air bubbles, something is stuck in there, could be comb or pen, I'd use the plunger, work that puppy pretty good to get a strong suction pull, see if you can draw anything back into the bowl. And Alan, thanks for the tip on looking past the flapper to see for a blockage, I never thought to check that out when trying to clear a toilet, that sounds like an ideal spot for a mirror and flashlight, thank you.
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Will look into this tomorrow... Now regarding the comb or pen and plunger advice from DUDE, you mean that they can be stuck between the tank and toilet or down the bowl? Again will give the plunger another shot and get back to everyone to post the results. Thanks again...
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requarding a pen or comb or whatever, I've had them "pop" up when plunging the bowl, I can only assume they were lodged in the channel of the bowl. I understand they can't make the bend but they will grab hold of paper and partially block the drain. And just saying, when I'm working the plunger on a clog, I go all out, water will fly as I try to get good suction to pull what ever is clogging that toilet up, of course that is after not being able to get the clog to go the other way down the drain.
After thought, one time after trying to use a toilet auger to clear the drain I went back to the plunger, finally got a pen to come out of there.
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Hello all. So I have done the following:
1. Cleaned all rim jets which I must say where pretty clean and unclogged.
2. I have plunged away to try to remove anything stuck.
3. I have checked for anything stuck between the tank and toilet and nothing there
4. I did notice several things.
a. THe air bubbles are being caused by the hose connected to the overfill tube. If I remove the hose, then no air bubbles are caused. When I leave the flap open and the hose connected, I can see how the air bubbles accumulate right at the bottom of the over fill tube. I checked by other toilet and does the same thing.
b. WHen I use the black korky universal flapper, the moment I flush, it open and rapidly closes. I have to hold it until it does a complete flush.
c. When I use the 1.6 red korky flapper, when I flush it remains open until the water in the tank pretty much all leaves.
So what next? Should I try one of the korky adjustable flappers to see if the works? Also what is considered a complete flush, when all water empties from the tank or when it reaches half way? Any info appreciated. ARRRRR. Thanks again

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Hello all. So I have done the following:
1. Cleaned all rim jets which I must say where pretty clean and unclogged.
2. I have plunged away to try to remove anything stuck.
3. I have checked for anything stuck between the tank and toilet and nothing there
4. I did notice several things.
a. THe air bubbles are being caused by the hose connected to the overfill tube. If I remove the hose, then no air bubbles are caused. When I leave the flap open and the hose connected, I can see how the air bubbles accumulate right at the bottom of the over fill tube. I checked by other toilet and does the same thing.
b. WHen I use the black korky universal flapper, the moment I flush, it open and rapidly closes. I have to hold it until it does a complete flush.
c. When I use the 1.6 red korky flapper, when I flush it remains open until the water in the tank pretty much all leaves.
So what next? Should I try one of the korky adjustable flappers to see if the works? Also what is considered a complete flush, when all water empties from the tank or when it reaches half way? Any info appreciated. ARRRRR. Thanks again
A flush will never remove all of the water in the tank. If you were actually to fill the toilet tank from empty to the 1.6 line, you would probably find that it holds a bit more than 1.6, simply because the water does not all drain out.

I think an adjustable flapper might be just what you need. It's worth a shot anyway. (you're talking about the ones with the float attached to the chain, right?)
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Actually there are two. The one with the float on the chain and Korky has one that you adjust the ball or know down on the flapper itself. At this point I will try both...
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we use the sharky ones with the float on the chain. Thats what I had to put in my toilet to get it to flush properly. It wouldn't flush at all, the flapper would close almost immediately after tripping the lever.
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the communication between the inlet and outlet valve has been disrupted. you need to check the atmospheric vent for loss of pressure

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