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Old 07-06-2014, 04:58 PM   #1
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So, I had my underground inspection. Before the inspection, I drew my shower tray layout on the concrete so that the inspector can comment on. The inspector measured the distance between the edge of the tray and the toilet pipe. The inspector approved my underground pipe, and he said I have sufficient space (I can't remember the exact number 13" while I have 15"). But, then I read a code states that "A minimum space of 24 inches must be planned in front of a shower entry."

Can anyone explain what the code is trying to say?

Btw, I live in Prince William county, VA.

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Old 07-06-2014, 05:19 PM   #2
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You need 15" from the center of the toilet to the next fixture, cabinet, wall, etc. In other words, a toilet requires 30" of clear space.
You need 24" clear in front of the shower - to enter or exit.
There are also minimums forin front of toilets and lavs

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My toilet is by the shower tray which was planned for a tub by the builder. Other than the 15", do i need to cleat more space (i.e. Additional 24") from the tray?
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417.4.2 Access. The shower compartment access and egress opening shall have a minimum clear and unobstructed finished width of 22 inches (559 mm). Shower compartments required to be designed in conformance to accessibility provisions shall comply with Section 404.1.

What that means is the shower opening must be a min. of 22 inches for access to the shower.

405.3.1 Water closets, urinals, lavatories and bidets. A water closet, urinal, lavatory or bidet shall not be set closer than 15 inches (381 mm) from its center to any side wall, partition, vanity or other obstruction, or closer than 30 inches (762 mm) center-to-center between adjacent fixtures. There shall be at least a 21-inch (533 mm) clearance in front of the water closet, urinal, lavatory or bidet to any wall, fixture or door. Water closet compartments shall not be less than 30 inches (762 mm) wide and 60 inches (

What the bold means is what it says. 21 inches from the installed fixtures.

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Or, it means as long as there is at least 24" opening in front of the shower tray?

In other words, the toilet will not block the shower tray (48" long) all the way.
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Are you installing your toilet in front of your shower access. Please post your fixture layout.



If you have


SH WC Lav

and the shower is 48 inches long

When you install a toilet is that fixture in the way of you getting into the shower?

Use some common sense?

An average toilet will hang out about 31 inches from the wall. That is why most builders add dead space on the toilet side of the shower.

If your comfortable with that its your house. We are not doing commercial construction here.

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Yes, the toilet is designed to be in front of the shower. See the attached lay out.

I think most of the elongated toilet is 27.5."

Do you think the inspector will fail me?

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Attached is another image from different website which confuses me.
The problem is that my other bathrooms don't have this much of room between the bathtub/shower and toilet.

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Personally I would want more space in front of the toilet. With a 5 foot tub you leave 29 inches. With a 4 foot shower tour down to 17 inches and a tight squeeze. The toilet measurement I got came from a Mansfield elongated toilet.

The major problem you have is you do not have the 21 inches in front of the toilet itself. Do you plan on resting your knees against the wall when you use it.

If I inspected you I would turn you down.

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Personally I would want more space in front of the toilet. With a 5 foot tub you leave 29 inches. With a 4 foot shower tour down to 17 inches and a tight squeeze. The toilet measurement I got came from a Mansfield elongated toilet.

The major problem you have is you do not have the 21 inches in front of the toilet itself. Do you plan on resting your knees against the wall when you use it.

If I inspected you I would turn you down.
Thanks Ghostmaker!
The problem is that I move the wall out to get the comforting 24", the hallway outside the bathroom will be only 30" to 31".

So, that is my dilemma. Which one is more important code wise. The bathroom or the hallway?
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From the closed bathroom door to the shower looks to be over 4'. Way more than 24" in front of it.

With my Toto toilet, I need 50-51" to maintain 21" in front of it. Other toilets may be shorter depth wise.


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Since I'm not the one inspecting you. It's up to him if he even notices it. So do not volunteer the info.
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I keep saying inspectors are people too.

Don't worry about the shower room. If you can sidle your way to it, you will pass.

Toilet spacing is for access for all kind of people, and set for 30" with toilet in the center. Inspectors check this only.

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