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Ebierley 03-18-2013 05:34 PM

Difference in fixtures?
 
Is there any difference in delta and mown faucets bought from HD and Lowes and ones from plumbing supply houses? I'm a HVAC tech and some things like thermostats are different and since I am remodeling the kitchen I was wondering if the same was true with faucets.

jmon 03-18-2013 06:21 PM

IMO, yes. Local plumbing supply stores products seem to be better to me. Stay tuned, see what other plumbers are saying.

plumberman134 03-18-2013 06:35 PM

From my experiences.....sometimes.Ive repaired moen tub and shower faucets from Home Depot and they are identical to ones bought in supply houses.Kitchen and lav faucets usually have a different style and manufactured cartariages.The body of the faucet seems the same though,just cheaper guts

TheEplumber 03-18-2013 06:58 PM

I'll just say that some of the box store brands will not be found in a plumbing supply house--ever!
Moen does make models specific to box stores, I would imagine other brands do too

jaydevries 03-18-2013 07:38 PM

most box stores sell cheaper made guts but if you know what to look for they carry a few with better guts. but one thing that is rare to find at box store is a good drain Assembly with them

Alan 03-18-2013 09:51 PM

Here's what I know :


When I first started plumbing about 6 years ago, we'd have people call asking us to install something they bought at home depot or ACE, and the quality was significantly different.

Now with everything going to low lead, even the stuff coming from our suppliers is mostly plastic. The rumor I have heard for the reason behind this is that with lead being removed from the brass, we now have to replace it with some other kind of metal Read : HARDER metal. As you can imagine, this is causing problems for the tools that used to cut the brass with the lead in it, and wearing them out, and breaking them much more rapidly than before. One of our catalogs lists lead free brass at 3x the price of the standard brass fittings. At this point, we aren't regulated to buy lead free, but when that happens, we will probably go to stainless steel. Already we can buy stainless fittings at the hardware store for a few dollars less than the lead free brass that is starting to show up.

There are a few particular styles of faucets out there that we can get that seem to be mostly brass, but they are few and far between. :(

mj12 03-18-2013 11:17 PM

The lead free brass seems to have just started showing up at the big box stores on the eastern coast. I needed a two inch threaded 1/2 inch brass nipple, it was 7 bucks at the big box. Alan has a good point, everything is going down, just a race to the bottom. I do not install customer faucets.

joes plumbing 03-19-2013 08:08 PM

Yes box store sells inferior products of the same model I get from my supply house. I proved to a colleague of mine two kohler faucets one from HD other my supplier. Plastic drain weight was less on box store faucet by a good amount.

ddawg16 03-19-2013 08:13 PM

I've wondered the same thing......

We bought a PP faucet back in 2000...got it from the Expo (high end HD)......nice solid goose neck job....but the hose started to leak...just a drip or two every hour....but after days...it adds up...so they sent us a replacement....it was the same thing that HD carries....while it had one feature added that I liked, it was not the same 'quality' as the old one....

Recently when we were buying the wife's tub from Ferguson, I asked the sales guy the same question....yes, there is a difference....the big box stores are just cheap copies of stuff they sell contractors.

The guts might be the same (no reason to use a different cartridge)....but you really see it in the outside...


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