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natwin 06-23-2009 08:22 PM

Delta tub spout question
 
Hello,

I have a Delta spout in my tub which I need to replace. It is similar to the pictures that Piedmont posted in this thread:

http://www.diychatroom.com/f7/bathtu...acement-32963/

Similar to those pictures, when I unscrew the spout, the plastic part screws off, with the sleeve/nipple remaining on the pipe. This looks to be soldered on, and I cannot remove it.

I have purchased a Delta replacement part, which comes with the copper part already screwed to the plastic part (see below). Is there an easy way for me to take this out/unscrew it, so that I can then screw the new spout directly onto the existing/soldered-on piece?

Thanks,
Natwin

http://courseweb.lis.illinois.edu/%7...mages/IMG_1056

Plumber101 06-23-2009 08:43 PM

The brass insert should just unscrew from the new spout but, typically the old brass insert is just threaded on to a male threaded adapter that is sweated on the copper line off the valve and it should unscrew.

Try gently with a couple of channel lock pliers to remove it from the spout connection.

Post a pic of the piping

natwin 06-23-2009 10:32 PM

Thank you for the reply! I know this sounds like a stupid question, but would there be any easy way to unscrew the brass piece off of the new spout? It is sitting flush in the plastic part, and I can't figure a way of unscrewing it, short of finding another 1/2" piece of piping to screw into the brass part first to get some leverage.

Here is a picture of the piping. The sleeve seems to be stuck on pretty well - not sure if it is has been soldered on or if it is because of corrosion. I'm a bit afraid to try too hard to get it off.

http://courseweb.lis.illinois.edu/%7...mages/IMG_1059

hayewe farm 06-23-2009 10:43 PM

I don't believe you've removed all of the old spout. You should just have a threaded nipple sticking out of the wall.

Plumber101 06-23-2009 11:09 PM

It appears that someone may have removed the O-ring and sweated the brass adapter to the pipe. Remove the adapter from the new one, apply some washer grease to the existing O-ring and put the new spout on

natwin 06-24-2009 12:12 AM

Plumber101 - thanks very much! I'll go ahead and take your approach.

Natwin

wrangler 06-24-2009 06:18 AM

Sometimes those brass adapters are a bit tight. I use my scraper to remove them. Just wedge it into the brass and back it out. I'd use the new o-ring and then just screw the spout on.

emmawren 07-19-2009 02:59 PM

Better yet: is there an aftermarket equivalent part that does not have the brass adapter and may costs less?
I have the exact same problem. It seems Delta wants to sell you an adapter you may not need. Or is there a reason that the adapter should be replaced. (Only my diverter is not working).

jeffrow1 07-19-2009 08:58 PM

I just installed one of these from Delta. The fitting is soldered on, if you want to use the new one included with the spout remove the o ring and heat it and pull it off. Clean and flux, solder new one on. Make sure and pull off the o ring before heating. FWIW probably better off just cleaning off old one and using new o ring off new one and screw on new spout.

wrangler 07-19-2009 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emmawren (Post 304061)
Better yet: is there an aftermarket equivalent part that does not have the brass adapter and may costs less?
I have the exact same problem. It seems Delta wants to sell you an adapter you may not need. Or is there a reason that the adapter should be replaced. (Only my diverter is not working).

Actually, if you have a replacement spout that fits onto the existing adapter, I would just replace the o-ring and screw the new spout on. I have bought replacement adapters from Ace before, but most hardware or plumbing stores should carry them. I know that often replacement Delta spouts come with the adapter, and as previously asked, they can be a bit tight in the new spout. The original poster (OP) was asking about getting the new adapter out of the new spout. That new adapter would have the new o-ring needed to make the water tight connection.

cn90 12-26-2010 04:36 PM

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FIRST: Check Delta website for warranty info. I think it is warranteed as long as you own the house.

I have the exact same issue, the "Brass Adapter" is soldered into the 1/2" copper pipe.
The solutions are actually simple:

1. Buy a new Delta RP5834 at Lowes for $17. In-store is $26 but online price is $17.
Go to the store and ask Lowes to price-match.
Then:
- Leave the old brass adapter alone,
- Transfer new O-ring from the new kit over.
- Screw in the new Delta Spout and you are done in 2 minutes.

2. I found an alternative by "shimming" the "Cup O-ring" in the pull-up device.
Go to Lowes and buy a pack of Danco O-ring #35; about $1.90 for pack of 10.
- Remove the Spout.
- Using a flat screwdriver and gently spread the 2 prongs that hold the white plastic sleeve (the sleeve that holds the "Cup O-ring" for sealing purpose). Then remove the white plastic sleeve.
- Danco O-ring #35 is O.D. 11/32"; I.D. 9/32"; thickness 1/16".
Place this thin O-ring under the "Cup O-ring" and re-install.
- The thin O-ring raises the "Cup O-ring" a tad higher so the seal is nice and tight.
- Cost is 20 cents!

3. Buy a repair kit. Very few places sell it. Examples:
http://www.homefixitparts.com/showpa...Repair%20Parts

You will likely need this, not sure but check yours to be sure:
Part #P2-47-094; $8.00 at the above website.

azFrank 03-13-2012 10:59 PM

I made the mistake of trying to remove the brass section with a pipe-wrench.
It turned O.K. completely bending the 1/2 copper tubing like a rope.
Had to get a plumber, remove a tile etc. etc. cost over $100.
DO NOT ATTEMPT to unscrew the original 3" long brass fitting. Do as suggested,
remove the "O" Ring heat the copper tubing and slide brass fitting off, or hack-saw it off at the "O"ring

azFrank 03-13-2012 11:06 PM

Jeffro1 has the correct solution.
 
Correct way to change the spout with anew one,
Remove the O-Ring, Heat the 1/2' tubing to remove the soldered washer,
or hack-saw the tubing, remove the whole brass unit, solder on the new male adapter and screw on new spout.:thumbup:

plummen 03-13-2012 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natwin (Post 292060)
Thank you for the reply! I know this sounds like a stupid question, but would there be any easy way to unscrew the brass piece off of the new spout? It is sitting flush in the plastic part, and I can't figure a way of unscrewing it, short of finding another 1/2" piece of piping to screw into the brass part first to get some leverage.

Here is a picture of the piping. The sleeve seems to be stuck on pretty well - not sure if it is has been soldered on or if it is because of corrosion. I'm a bit afraid to try too hard to get it off.

http://courseweb.lis.illinois.edu/%7...mages/IMG_1059

Look for a set screw someplace on that fitting:)

Alan 03-13-2012 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plummen (Post 877129)
Look for a set screw someplace on that fitting:)

Old thread, buddy. It's okay, I forgive you. :)


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