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Old 11-21-2007, 07:01 PM   #16
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You sounded as if you had been in a main panel or sub-panel before so if your not familiar with what is going on in there better to have some help from someone that does.

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Hey, I'm still here! That's because I haven't done anything yet and now it's dark, so it'll have to wait for another day.

Wired directly to the panel:
Spiced into a receptacle in the crawlspace - from the panel, B,W,G. Wired B-B, R-W, Y-G with the breaker configuration shown in the diagram above.

The panel used to be in the bathroom. We turned it around, cut an access in the next room, and put up a new wall in the bathroom. Wires on the panel go from R,B,W,G to B,W,G where the pump hooks up in the crawlspace, so whatever splicing has been done there is now buried inside the wall, but the guy that hooked it all up says he followed what was already in place for the pump.

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Old 11-21-2007, 07:11 PM   #18
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You sounded as if you had been in a main panel or sub-panel before so if your not familiar with what is going on in there better to have some help from someone that does.
No - have only ever had one panel, but did replace it with a larger one at the same time as the pump so everything got rewired at that time.

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Old 11-21-2007, 09:21 PM   #19
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It sounds like you spliced the pump into another 110V circuit, and it worked.

So is this pump a 220V pump, or 110V? I think you should determine that before hooking it up to the 220V double pole breaker.
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ARRRGGGG!!!!
I'm still here, but I'm starting to wish I wasn't.

I moved the breaker up a space - nothing. Still says power is going to everything, but I don't have a voltage meter to test how much. So...

I'm stumped. I did notice, however, that whenever I flick off the top breaker (#15/Black), there is a spark on the bar where the White is attached... doesn't happen with any other breakers, including the other pump breaker. ??

Below is a diagram of the control box wiring from the Myers installation guide for my pump.

Next step... tear the wall out and see what's going on back there?
Quote: "Wires on the panel go from R,B,W,G to B,W,G where the pump hooks up in the crawlspace, so whatever splicing has been done there is now buried inside the wall"
OR... I could find a plumber or an electrician who will work for beer - shouldn't be too hard (haha).
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OR... I could find a plumber or an electrician who will work for beer - shouldn't be too hard (haha).
I was going to try to help you with a simple test, but I found that remark a bit insulting. Good %^&* luck.
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I was going to try to help you with a simple test, but I found that remark a bit insulting. Good %^&* luck.
WTF? I know I'm insulted by the rude reference to the "insult". Do some people have no sense of humour? I got the joke chicky (I called you chicky, were you filled with rage and horror?). Of course you weren't. I used a play on words from your forum name that COULD be construed as sexist, but obviously was a light attempt at humour. I assume fix-it-chick, that you could see that this was a ploy to illicit a smile, no matter how small. Humour, see it, Pipes? again i say...WTF?

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I apologize if my attempt at humor insulted anyone else - actually, the dig was aimed at myself; it's like when your buddies come and help you move because you can't afford to pay a moving company. Do you pay them in cash, or do you buy them pizza and beer?

BTW - I was going to say "will work for favors," but I didn't want to start down that road.

Thanks Andy - for calling me a "chicky," but actually, I'm just a tough old bird.

Please, Pipes, if you have something to share, I would love to hear it.

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Ya reckon that guy was kidding?
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Ya reckon that guy was kidding?
That may be - maybe he didn't have anything at all - but why tempt fate?

Oops. I think I just did...

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That may be - maybe he didn't have anything at all - but why tempt fate?

Oops. I think I just did...
That right there is funny!

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But seriously, getting back on topic, I want to thank all those who have tried to help... anyone have any other ideas?

Thanks

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After all this, I think I may have found the problem. Here it is... The pump is 12 gauge wire, but the breaker is 14. Also, on closer inspection, the flash when the breaker is switched is not coming from the neutral (as I thought), it is coming from the breaker. Alas, my worst-case scenario has come true. I have to pull out the whole breaker panel and fish a 12 gauge wire through to the crawlspace. I can't tie onto the wires that are already there and pull it through, because they are spliced into a junction box somewhere inside the wall...

If this ABSOLUTELY is not the problem, please stop me before I continue...

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It seems that the only part of your system in question now is the wiring from the pressure switch to the breaker. If it was my house I would run a a new 12/2 wg from the pressure switch to a 20 amp 2 pole breaker. No need to remove panel, just cut out enough sheetrock to gain access to run the new wire. You will need to install some type of disconnect near the pressure tank/switch.

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