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trobs007 01-12-2013 06:25 PM

Crack in the Soil Stack Near Basement Floor
 
Hi Everyone-

Wanted to make my first post something more positive, but I noticed a leak in the soil stack in the basement today. In the pictures below, you can see it is a small almost hairline crack. It is leaking slightly, mostly drops that come out at the top and roll down the side and collect at the bottom. The crack appears to extend to the floor, but I can't really tell because it wraps behind and I lose view.

Can I put Harvey's Soil-Seal on this or should I call a plumber? My fear with Soil Seal is that the crack extends below the floor surface, meaning I won't completely seal it and it will leak below. I would imagine if this can't be sealed that this is going to be a huge (expensive) job seeing it is at the very bottom of a cast iron soil stack!

Any thoughts are MUCH appreciated!

Close up, paint scraper blade for perspective.

http://www.diychatroom.com/members/t...ck-closeup.jpg

Another view- crack only goes about 8 inches up.

http://www.diychatroom.com/members/t...soil-stack.jpg

Whole Stack

http://www.diychatroom.com/members/t...soil-stack.jpg

joecaption 01-12-2013 06:38 PM

All cast and steel pipes will rust and plug up on the insides are some time and need to be replace, looks like yours has reached that point.

trobs007 01-12-2013 09:15 PM

Thanks, Joe.

Are there any plumbers out there/anyone who has had this done who has an idea of the magnitude and cost of the fix?

COLDIRON 01-13-2013 06:24 AM

For a temporary measure put a saddle clamp on it and watch it for a while.

oh'mike 01-13-2013 07:05 AM

That stack goes into an elbow or T below the slab----if the T or elbow and the lateral line are still sound---the slab needs to be opened---the old stack cut and removed from the hub on the fitting and replaced with PVC--

Cost? Small chipping hammer rental--$35-$40---chain snapper---$20-- rubber hub doughnut--$8

Fernco coupling--$12---PVC $10 odds and ends and concrete---$40

Time??? Hidden failures under slab? That's some old drains you pictured---

Fix'n it 01-13-2013 09:42 AM

how does the stack go up through the house/roof ?

trobs007 01-13-2013 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fix'n it (Post 1092309)
how does the stack go up through the house/roof ?

It goes all the way up through the attic and out of the roof. The picture below shows the top portion in the basement...you can see where the foundation ends and it goes into the first floor. Looks like someone already replaced the old cleanout.

http://www.diychatroom.com/members/t...upper-half.jpg

oh'mike 01-13-2013 11:22 AM

Good luck --You have signs of pipe failure---this might be the start of a re-pie job---Be gentile--that old iron is getting fragile---

Fix'n it 01-13-2013 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trobs007 (Post 1092380)
It goes all the way up through the attic and out of the roof.

yeah, i know.
but is it a 1 story, or 2 or 3 ? outside wall, interior wall ? how thick is the pipe, and the walls it runs through ? what does the stack on the roof look like ?

trobs007 01-13-2013 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fix'n it (Post 1092398)
yeah, i know.
but is it a 1 story, or 2 or 3 ? outside wall, interior wall ? how thick is the pipe, and the walls it runs through ? what does the stack on the roof look like ?

Sorry, I was trying to think of the best way to answer your question and I think I came up with the biggest "Duh" factor answer.

It's about a 4-6" diameter cast iron pipe. It's on the outside wall in the back, goes up two stories, through the attic, and out. From what I remember last time I was up in the attic, there is another PVC coupling in the attic, but it is the same diameter where the pipe exits. I'll snap a shot tomorrow.

I am definitely going to call a plumber in for some quotes!

jagans 01-14-2013 08:56 AM

Seriously Ugly. Replace it all from the wrongfully installed no-hub connector to PVC up. Those connectors are for joining CI to CI. Not CI to PVC. Keep the cleanout at 4 inches, why reduce to 3" ???

trobs007 01-14-2013 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jagans (Post 1093130)
Seriously Ugly. Replace it all from the wrongfully installed no-hub connector to PVC up. Those connectors are for joining CI to CI. Not CI to PVC. Keep the cleanout at 4 inches, why reduce to 3" ???

That looks like everything else that was done in the house...at least that one was not done by the "licensed contractor" who "flipped" the house!

I'm getting the feeling that this one is going to beyond the scope of a DIY....especially if I get down to the lateral under the cement and find other issues. Besides, it is a soil stack. If I do a lousy tape and mud job on drywall it's just annoying to look at in certain light. If I foul up the main soil stack... :jester:

I really appreciate everyone's feedback. I will update this thread after I get a plumber out... even though it won't be a DIY it will serve as info for anyone else in the same situation.


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