Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Plumbing

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 06-14-2012, 03:32 PM   #16
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Livermore, California
Posts: 265
Share |
Default

cost of installing hot water heater


wkearney99,
I suspect their dislike of permits was related to their misstating code in order to increase the cost. Also they stated that they don't pull permits for any work that they charge less than $500 for, and implied that they'll tell the home warranty company the permit is unnecessary so the owner has to pay out of pocket. I always assumed that the need for permits was based on the type and scope of the work, not just the amount actually charged. Then again, this is my first time dealing with a plumber where a permit was required. Heck, I'm even actually surprised at their price for pulling a permit, it's only $82 more than the permit itself. $82 seems a bit small for 2 trips (permit pull & inspection) in a city 30 miles away. But then again $250 is the most the home warranty will pay for a permit pull so ...

Alan,
Well that sucks, and is a perfectly reasonable approach to take. But I also suspect that your primary source of income isn't one home warranty company, like these folks. On top of that, from your posts it's clear that your a significantly more honest plumber than these folks. So that'd be $700 well spent.

Hm, it seems that I've hijacked this thread. Sorry, to the OP.

a_lost_shadow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2012, 08:13 PM   #17
Doing it myself
 
Alan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Crescent City, CA
Posts: 3,750
Send a message via AIM to Alan Send a message via MSN to Alan
Default

cost of installing hot water heater


Quote:
Originally Posted by a_lost_shadow View Post
On top of that, from your posts it's clear that your a significantly more honest plumber than these folks. So that'd be $700 well spent.
I appreciate this observation, and I want to hug you now.
__________________
Journeyman Plumber
Alan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2012, 01:34 AM   #18
JOATMON
 
ddawg16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: S. California
Posts: 7,227
Default

cost of installing hot water heater


I can't help but wonder why people come to a DIY site to ask questions related to paying someone else doing the work....what part of DIY did they not understand?
__________________
"The dream is free but the hustle is sold separately."

My 2-Story Addition Build in Progress Link ... My Garage Build Link and My Jeep Build Link
ddawg16 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2012, 09:19 AM   #19
Doing it myself
 
Alan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Crescent City, CA
Posts: 3,750
Send a message via AIM to Alan Send a message via MSN to Alan
Default

cost of installing hot water heater


Quote:
Originally Posted by ddawg16 View Post
I can't help but wonder why people come to a DIY site to ask questions related to paying someone else doing the work....what part of DIY did they not understand?


I suppose maybe that's a way of not getting kicked off the forum for asking :

"How much should I charge my neighbor to install a water heater"
__________________
Journeyman Plumber
Alan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2012, 09:23 AM   #20
JOATMON
 
ddawg16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: S. California
Posts: 7,227
Default

cost of installing hot water heater


[quote=Alan;943945]

quote]


What? I get that instead of a hug?

Side note....care to make bets on if he comes back?

Another one post wonder....
__________________
"The dream is free but the hustle is sold separately."

My 2-Story Addition Build in Progress Link ... My Garage Build Link and My Jeep Build Link
ddawg16 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2012, 09:41 AM   #21
Bill Kearney
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Bethesda, MD USA
Posts: 1,911
Default

cost of installing hot water heater


Or maybe they're asking because they'd like to know what it would take to DIY and use that to decide whether it's "worth" paying a pro.
wkearney99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2012, 09:51 AM   #22
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Dallas TX
Posts: 157
Default

cost of installing hot water heater


Quote:
Originally Posted by wkearney99 View Post
Or maybe they're asking because they'd like to know what it would take to DIY and use that to decide whether it's "worth" paying a pro.
I agree.
Asking how much one would expect to pay a pro to do something is a fair question when building a cost benefit analysis of your DIY project.
Although, asking here what a pro would charge seems like a waste of time (unless it costs you money to get a quote from your local companies).
I have had really great luck calling 3-5 different local companies and having them give me quotes over the phone or on site and then picking the best one or deciding I'm better off doing it on my own.
knotquiteawake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2012, 01:55 PM   #23
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 221
Default

cost of installing hot water heater


Quote:
Originally Posted by oh'mike View Post
I would not recommend HD or Lowes
I didn't actually to say use HD or L. I implied they would have the worst prices. When I have a non-DIY projects to establish a ceiling price, I go to HD so I can start getting the budget lined up.

I also go to HD for some DIY projects. The rule with the wife is DIY + new tools < HD price, wife happy.
goosebarry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2012, 02:43 PM   #24
Member
 
concretemasonry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota - Latitude 45.057 Longitude -93.074
Posts: 3,750
Default

cost of installing hot water heater


ddawg -

Not everyone want to be a 100% DIYer for good reasons.

I recently used a plumbing contractor (2 or 3 trucks) do a job a few years ago because it was beyond my ability and time schedule, since a quick in and out is worth something. I had a 20 year old A.O. Smith water heater die on a Saturday or Sunday morning, leaving water on the floor of the utility room. I called the guy that did some earlier, non related, work that seemed a little high. I called at 8:00 AM Sunday and had a similar A.O Smith installed and working by noon on Sunday for $800 including disposal. I discovered the heater was on someone's shelf for 2 years (according to tags and numbers), which is common, and was not a high efficiency model, but the efficiency was important since last month our gas usage cost was less tha the monthly connection fee.

I discovered that I was probably treated fairly on my first job and will call the same company whenever I want something done that is beyond my ability and schedule and will probably not be much more than my REAL cost.

Dick
concretemasonry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2012, 10:41 PM   #25
sacramento plumber
 
wctekkk's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: born and raised in San mateo ca. living in Sacramento Ca for 3 years now.
Posts: 146
Default

cost of installing hot water heater


TO a_lost_shadow Hope you will keep a open mind about the contractors fidelity sends out to your home.I'm one those shady plumbers,but I would like to think i'm better than that.In all do respect sir,I do contract w/Fidelity.Yes I feel bad when i'm at a customers home and something is not covered under your policy.It's not our fault we diagnose then call in for autho fidelity says yes it's covered or denied.I wish h/o would read there policy,make sure you have faucet coverage, and fully understand what is required by the h/o for a plumbing stoppage,1-mainline=ground level clean out, 2-kitchen stoppage=wall clean out, fidelity will not pay us to pull a toilet or go on a roof.And yea it sucks when I have to tell a h/o sorry i can't clear your line no c/o.Most h/o thinks pulling a toilet no problem but if i were to a toilet on a courtesy there is huge risk i take number1 pull toilet find broken flange now who's responsible 2 try to pull up toilet rip or tear or up a piece of tile because of all the silicone.I truly try every thing i can to make the h/o comfortable about me ,i'll repair or replace like it was own house.Everything i work on i take pride in, and as far as the non covered charges on your w/h again it's in your policy how much for code upgrades, disposal fee, modifications.Hope next time they send a plumber out you get someone good because there out there.

Last edited by wctekkk; 06-15-2012 at 10:55 PM. Reason: missed words
wctekkk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2012, 10:48 PM   #26
sacramento plumber
 
wctekkk's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: born and raised in San mateo ca. living in Sacramento Ca for 3 years now.
Posts: 146
Default

cost of installing hot water heater


Hope you will keep a open mind about the contractors fidelity sends out to your home.I'm one those shady plumbers,but I would like to think i'm better than that.In all do respect sir,I do contract w/Fidelity.Yes I feel bad when i'm at a customers home and something is not covered under your policy.It's not our fault we diagnose then call in for autho fidelity says yes it's covered or denied.I wish h/o would read there policy,make sure you have faucet coverage, and fully understand what is required by the h/o for a plumbing stoppage,1-mainline=ground level clean out, 2-kitchen stoppage=wall clean out, fidelity will not pay us to pull a toilet or go on a roof.And yea it sucks when I have to tell a h/o sorry i can't clear your line no c/o.Most h/o thinks pulling a toilet no problem but if i were to a toilet on a courtesy there is huge risk i take number1 pull toilet find broken flange now who's responsible 2 try to pull up toilet rip or tear or up a piece of tile because of all the silicone.I truly try every thing i can to make the h/o comfortable about me ,i'll repair or replace like it was own house.Every i work on i take pride in,the n and as far as the non covered charges on your w/h again it's in your policy how much for code upgrades, disposal fee, modifications.Hope next time they send a plumber out you get someone good because there out there.
wctekkk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2012, 11:59 PM   #27
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Livermore, California
Posts: 265
Default

cost of installing hot water heater


wctekkk,
My apologies if I came across as condemning all plumbers that work with/for home warranty companies. I expect the vast majority of them are honest folks, who probably see more than their fair share of folks expecting the work to be free. Unfortunately, there are a few bad apples such as the company that was sent on my call. I gave this company 3 chances, and my experiences started at bad and kept getting worse. As you can tell, I'm still a bit peeved by the experience. So again, my apologies if my negativity came across as directed at anyone other than the specific company I had problems with.

Last edited by a_lost_shadow; 06-16-2012 at 12:05 AM.
a_lost_shadow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2012, 01:19 AM   #28
sacramento plumber
 
wctekkk's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: born and raised in San mateo ca. living in Sacramento Ca for 3 years now.
Posts: 146
Default

cost of installing hot water heater


i accept your apology and have to admit i do get called out on some second opinions, h/o request on some nonsense report the first plumber gave.THANK YOU.

wctekkk is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Low hot water pressure crebive Plumbing 38 02-26-2013 12:26 AM
Gas Water Heater, water not hot enough - Thermostat or Sediment makunag Plumbing 15 08-27-2010 11:00 PM
Water heater pressure relief valve confusion Flt_Simulation Plumbing 4 07-11-2009 10:02 AM
low hot water pressure angus242 Plumbing 10 01-08-2009 11:41 AM
Testing 12 year old hot water expansion tank? DJfixer Plumbing 2 01-01-2009 08:09 AM




Top of Page | View New Posts

Copyright © 2003-2014 Escalate Media. All Rights Reserved.