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Old 07-21-2007, 06:48 PM   #16
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I knowI will catch hell on here for this but I used the quick connectors They dont require a crimper or rings I have had them in for about a year now and absolutly no problems at all but I do understand in some areas they are not code approved yet

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what crimping tools do you all like to use? I have seen sioux chief that will crimp 1/2' or 3/4" copper rings. Or a nother tool is called "the cinchtool" by Watts Waterpex. It uses a different type of clamp and can do 3/8", 1/2", 3/4" or 1". Any body use either of these crimpers?
I'm an avid DIY'er and am gonna do all the plumbing in our current flip.

I have the same tool you have and wouldn't use anything else...they seem to make a nice connection.
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The floor associate was really against the pex product and only recommended the CPVC. She said they had complaints of pin holes in the pex in less than a year (but they still had it on their shelf). Anyone else heard of early deteriation of the Pex product. I'm notorious for installing some major component product and then within a year reading about the manufacturer involved in a class action suite for faulty product. I don't need that again. I like the ease of installation of Pex but I'm concern I'll get a faulty product. This will be going in a basement that I'll be living in and I don't want to come home from work to find all the furniture floating. bjr23
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The floor associate was really against the pex product and only recommended the CPVC. She said they had complaints of pin holes in the pex in less than a year (but they still had it on their shelf). Anyone else heard of early deteriation of the Pex product. I'm notorious for installing some major component product and then within a year reading about the manufacturer involved in a class action suite for faulty product. I don't need that again. I like the ease of installation of Pex but I'm concern I'll get a faulty product. This will be going in a basement that I'll be living in and I don't want to come home from work to find all the furniture floating. bjr23
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Old 07-27-2007, 05:26 AM   #20
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i have had mine a year and no problem
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Old 08-03-2007, 11:21 AM   #21
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Interesting call from my husband that I thought I would share with you all.

We decided we would call out 3 plumbers to do quotes for replumbing our house with PEX. This way we can really assess how much we can spend on supplies and such.

The first plumber just left and was really pushing for copper plumbing in our house. We plan on living in it for the next 5 years before moving. He said they do PEX in flips and multi-family homes all the time because the codes are more lax, but since he guarantees his work he often won't do PEX in residential homes because the city (St. Louis) hasn't guaranteed they will continue to give occupancy permits to homes with PEX.

He's going to call back this afternoon with his quote. The 2 other plumbers come next week.
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He said they do PEX in flips and multi-family homes all the time because the codes are more lax, but since he guarantees his work he often won't do PEX in residential homes because the city (St. Louis) hasn't guaranteed they will continue to give occupancy permits to homes with PEX.
Wow, I didn't think codes were different based on the "type" of plumbing material. IMHO, he's blowing smoke at/up ya. It's one thing for someone to PREFER to work with copper and certainly respect that, but it's not right that he try to scare you into thinking your getting an inferior product.

I understood that if a house is code approved once the OP was issued, the house as an entity was grandfathered in unless further inspected changes happened, then it must be brought up to code. If I'm mistaken chime in.
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I agree RS someone is blowing some smoke.The only part of pex that have heard that is not code approved in all areas are some of the connectors (like the ones I used shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh) but other then that all I have heard are good things so unless one of the PROs on here knows better I would forget the first guy you had come out
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Go with PEX, he's trying to make lots of money using copper.
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That plumber called back to give us an estimate and gave it for the work to be done in copper. We asked what it would be in PEX and he said his company no longer does PEX because of all the problems they've encountered due to their 2 year guarantee.

We talked to our realtor and our home inspector and both told us we would be fine with the PEX. Our inspector told us that it's comparable to when circuit breakers first came out and experienced electricians didn't want to use them.

We've got 2 more plumbers coming out next week, we'll see what they say.
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Ok, my husband and I have decided that we'll just use a professional rather than jump through the hoops St. Louis has for a non-plumber to get a permit and this way our water is only turned off for a day. The second bid has come in and it's actually only $200 cheaper to do PEX than copper and both will be done within 1 day. What do you think?

Oh, for your reading pleasure, this is what's getting done:
Plumber to furnish all necessary materials, permits, and labor to replace hot & cold water piping with type M copper properly sized and valved starting at main shut off inside foundation serving: two outside hose bibs, one water heater, and move laundry bibs, one full bath, and one kitchen sink. Plumber also to level water heater. NOTE: plumber not responsible for repairs to floors, walls, ceilings, etc. All workmanship to comply with the City of St. Louis plumbing code and be guaranteed for one year.


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