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Old 11-30-2009, 06:17 PM   #16
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Thanks, Gary. I will ask the well driller, but I am guessing his "developing the well" is pretty much drilling the hole. My contract with him did not specify any particular quality of water, etc. Seems like I either have to get the shovel out and dig up my dug well that I used for years with little problem, or bite the bullet and pay $$$ for treatment. No magic bullets around these days I will continue to post any progress.
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Old 12-01-2009, 09:28 AM   #17
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I guess I'm not saying this clearly enough.... if this is drilling mud, he didn't construct the well properly, regardless of what your contract says, and this is not a groundwater quality problem that he has no control over, HE created this problem (by not developing the well properly).

He didn't create it IF it is natural clay. I can not see how it could be natural clay. A test of the material or a camera inspection of the sides of the well, below the end of the casing, should tell you which it is.
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Old 12-01-2009, 03:39 PM   #18
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Thanks again, Gary. I had a treatment company come over today. He told me it is clay, natural. It is a problem in my area. He recommended installing an injection pump, solution tank, and two settling tanks for $3,500. I'm trying to "cheap out" and hope to get things to a level I can live with and possibly filter (somewhat). During the warmer months I will switch back to drawing lake water and not have to deal with this nasty stuff.

I started to re-configure my tank location from inside to the garage where I have more room to add more thanks if I need to. The garage is heated so freezing should not be a problem. Makes for a lot of turns and bends in the plumbing, but it will allow me more room to make changes.

The water today was gray, cloudy with black specs (shale). If you hold it up you can see through it somewhat. I've gone down to drawing water for 1 minute about once an hour. I'll keep trying and see what works.
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Old 12-10-2009, 07:48 AM   #19
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The well water has been hooked up to the house for a week now. The water was gray and smelled of sulphur. I tried putting 3 cups of bleach into the well two times with no luck on the smell. I had a 5 micron carbon whole house filter that seemed to work on the grayness for a few days. When things did not clear up I put 1/2 gallon bleach into the well and replaced the 5 micron filter with a 2 micron carbon filter. The has been good for three days so far, but I suspect the 2 micron filter will need to be replaced once a week or more. Still cheaper than a treatment system. In about 4 months I can go back to lake water!!
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:51 PM   #20
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Here we are a few weeks running the well. It was pretty good for several days, then turns dark for a day, then back to good. The past two days have been really bad - black water. The lake froze over about the same time the water turned black/dark gray. The well is about 50' from the lake shore. I have been running the water continuously today to try to clear the well. I guess there's new veins opening up running through clay. It is also burping air/gas each time the pump reaches shut-off. I've tried to light the air/gas and it doesn't light, so I guess it's not methane. I'm still plugging away at it and will update if I find a cure!! If there are any suggestions for do it yourself I'd appreciate hearing them. Merry Christmas!!
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Old 12-31-2009, 10:09 AM   #21
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To the OP. IMO, your well does not have enough casing. It happens.

Talk to you driller about extending the casing with a liner.

Also, contact your health department on this. In my state this well would never be approved. I think your health department will help you.

I do not mean the driller should liner this for free either.
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Old 02-27-2010, 08:29 AM   #22
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I'm still "working" on my well. I can have a week or two of clear, no smell water and then it turns gray/black. I put 1 1/2 gallons of bleach into the well yesterday and I do not smell any bleach in the water today. The last time I did this it took several days before I smelled bleach and then the water was yellowish for a few days. After that the water cleared up and was great for almost two weeks. I run the water through a "whole house" carbon wrapped filter to take the bleach back out before it hits the sinks, etc. but I check it at the pressure tank. I am still getting hydrogen sulfide gas. It used to be accompanied by black water and black sediment. Now it is pretty much just gas. You don't appreciate good water until you have bad water!!!
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I'm still "working" on my well. I can have a week or two of clear, no smell water and then it turns gray/black. I put 1 1/2 gallons of bleach into the well yesterday and I do not smell any bleach in the water today. The last time I did this it took several days before I smelled bleach and then the water was yellowish for a few days. After that the water cleared up and was great for almost two weeks. I run the water through a "whole house" carbon wrapped filter to take the bleach back out before it hits the sinks, etc. but I check it at the pressure tank. I am still getting hydrogen sulfide gas. It used to be accompanied by black water and black sediment. Now it is pretty much just gas. You don't appreciate good water until you have bad water!!!
Why the hesitation on fixing the well?? It is the driller's problem not yours.
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Old 02-27-2010, 09:08 AM   #24
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The contract for drilling the well states that they do not guarantee the quantity nor the quality of the water. Their answer would pretty much be to contact a treatment company like Culligan.
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Here's another interesting point. The water coming out of the well (after putting in 1 1/2 gallons bleach yesterday) is transparent gray/blackish. When I put the water into a container and add a little bleach to it it goes from dark to clear/yellowish almost instantly. The question is why doesn't this happen in the well with all the bleach I put in? Seems the bleach should have the same effect on the water in the well as it does in the container.
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Old 02-27-2010, 09:26 AM   #26
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The contract for drilling the well states that they do not guarantee the quantity nor the quality of the water. Their answer would pretty much be to contact a treatment company like Culligan.
Did you get a permit??? If so talk to who issued it.

What state are you in?
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Here's another interesting point. The water coming out of the well (after putting in 1 1/2 gallons bleach yesterday) is transparent gray/blackish. When I put the water into a container and add a little bleach to it it goes from dark to clear/yellowish almost instantly. The question is why doesn't this happen in the well with all the bleach I put in? Seems the bleach should have the same effect on the water in the well as it does in the container.
Because this is a well construction failure.
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I'm in New York. The driller had the water tested for coliform and filed a "water well completion report" with NYS. This pretty much seems the norm around here - they drill, you treat (or hire a treatment company).
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I'm in New York. The driller had the water tested for coliform and filed a "water well completion report" with NYS. This pretty much seems the norm around here - they drill, you treat (or hire a treatment company).
Your code states POTABLE water. Yours is not POTABLE. Contact who wrote the permit. If they won't act file a complaint with the state.

Your well does not code.
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Old 02-27-2010, 04:39 PM   #30
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OK you keep saying the little black specs are shale... You keep dumping in bleach to get rid of your hydrogen sulfide gas, you suspect you have collidilal caly, and you have a yellowish tint in your water . HOlD ON TIGHT, here we go. The funny thing about sulfur is when it oxodizes it turns into little black particles, and Iron ( ferrous and non-ferrous ) turns yellow or brown when oxodized, you completed/started this reaction when you added the bleach to the well . you had a water test done by a treatment company... what were the results Ph, Alk, hardness, Hyd sulf, Iron ??? If you have the worst case scenario Fe, Sulfur, and collodial clay The same system is capeable of treating all 3 at the same time if you know what you are doing. I know the concept of dumping money into a treament system does not sound like fun but , you pick FUNKEY water or write the check or guess and do it yourself . What part of NY are you in ?? get some more information and the answers will come .
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