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Old 02-06-2015, 04:08 PM   #1
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My upstairs toilet is being very finicky. Anything other than liquid can cause it to clog. I am the only one using it 95% of the time, so nothing foreign should be down there. The bathtub and sink in the same room are fine. The plunger always clears the blockage usually on the first try. I have been up on the roof and tried water down the vent which made no difference.

There is also a downstairs washroom that seldom gets used, but has never had a problem. Is there anything else I should be trying before an auger. It was never an issue when I bought the house about 3.5 years ago. A few months after I moved in though, the main sewer line in my front yard became detached which caused sewage to backup in my downstairs bathroom, but that was repaired and shouldn't have anything to do with my current problem, should it?

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My upstairs toilet is being very finicky. Anything other than liquid can cause it to clog. I am the only one using it 95% of the time, so nothing foreign should be down there. The bathtub and sink in the same room are fine. The plunger always clears the blockage usually on the first try. I have been up on the roof and tried water down the vent which made no difference.

There is also a downstairs washroom that seldom gets used, but has never had a problem. Is there anything else I should be trying before an auger. It was never an issue when I bought the house about 3.5 years ago. A few months after I moved in though, the main sewer line in my front yard became detached which caused sewage to backup in my downstairs bathroom, but that was repaired and shouldn't have anything to do with my current problem, should it?

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Verify that there isn't a pencil or ball point pen lodged in the bowl's trap. Very difficult to see without removing the bowl.

When it happened to me, I removed the bowl several times and never saw the ball point pen from the top or with the bowl upside down. Was finally able to see the tip of the pen with the bowl right side up on 2 saw horses which allowed gravity to show the tip of the pen while I laid on the ground. Used forceps to pull the single barrel flexible ball point pen out.

Auger will clear the toilet paper but the pen will remain and re-clog later when #2 is done.

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A few months after I moved in though, the main sewer line in my front yard became detached which caused sewage to backup in my downstairs bathroom, but that was repaired and shouldn't have anything to do with my current problem, should it?Thanks.
Unless another part of the main offset or cracked.

Is the main mostly old cast iron?
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Unless another part of the main offset or cracked.

Is the main mostly old cast iron?
I believe it is ABS
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Still having this intermittent problem. I've noticed that when it doesn't flush correctly that the "waste" doesn't swirl. The plunger doesn't even need to plunge for it to fix the problem. Simply pushing down once is enough. I haven't tried the auger, but did put my 5.5HP wet/dry vac down there, but came up with nothing.
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Still having this intermittent problem. I've noticed that when it doesn't flush correctly that the "waste" doesn't swirl. The plunger doesn't even need to plunge for it to fix the problem. Simply pushing down once is enough. I haven't tried the auger, but did put my 5.5HP wet/dry vac down there, but came up with nothing.
As previously mentioned, it's probably a pencil or pen stuck in the bowl's trap. Toilet paper hangs up on the pen and impedes flushing but plunging clears the toilet paper until the next time.

As a troubleshooting step, clear the toilet with a plunger. Then only use that toilet for #1 and don't use that toilet for #2 for a while. If it never clogs, then try flushing some toilet paper. If it clogs, then it is a pen problem.

It can be VERY VERY difficult to find a stuck pen in the trap. Even knowing that, I had to remove our toilet, set it on two saw horses, shoot a strong stream of water from a water hose from the top and look from underneath to just see the tip of the cheap, flexible barrel type pen. Removed it using forceps.

While you have your toilet removed, the first thing to verify is to dump a couple of full buckets of water down the drain to insure the drain isn't clogged. If not clogged, then the problem must be in the toilet bowl's trap.

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Either something is stuck in the trap of the bowel or your water level in the tank may be to low. I once had a new low flush toilet that was just a piss poor design and once replaced problem went away.
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Water level was my first thought. If you hold down the flusher for a few seconds when you flush does the problem go away?
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I agree with the pencil or pen or toothbrush or toy. I used to have similar issue at work and when I pull the toilet it was always something (usually a plastic employee badge) stuck in the trap.
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Like Joed, we see this on occasion in our rental units - have removed a spoon, a utility knife and a kid's action figure so far.
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Water level was my first thought. If you hold down the flusher for a few seconds when you flush does the problem go away?
Havent tried that, but will. Plan B - Foreign object removal.

Should the water level in the tank be to the very top of the drain spout (or whatever the correct term is)?

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I think it's just called the fill tube - anyways, I've adjusted the water level so that it's at very top of the fill tube, but you can see that it still isn't quite as high as it was at one point in time. There is a discolored water line inside the tank that is about 1cm higher than it is now. Before I adjusted the water level, it was about 1/2" below the top of the fill tube.
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1/2 inch below the fill tube sounds about right. Should be good.

Maybe flapper is closing too soon and not allowing a good flush. Just observe it and rule it out.

I agree, something is still probably obstructing it.

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Holding the handle down makes no difference. I pulled the toilet don't see anything causing my problem. At the bottom of the bowl, the porcelain/ceramic has worn off and it is just a rust-brown colour. I am wondering if this is causing friction. When I flush the toilet, the waste does appear to block the entire opening of the bottom of the bowl.
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Holding the handle down makes no difference. I pulled the toilet don't see anything causing my problem. At the bottom of the bowl, the porcelain/ceramic has worn off and it is just a rust-brown colour. I am wondering if this is causing friction. When I flush the toilet, the waste does appear to block the entire opening of the bottom of the bowl.
While you have the toilet pulled, maybe try this:
  1. Get a rag and fold it back-and-forth so it can fit in the toilet's trap but not too big to get stuck.
  2. Get 2 lengths of strong cord and tie them to the ends of the rag. Tie the ends really well so the cords won't come off.
  3. Pass one end of the cord through the toilet bowl's trap.
  4. Gently pull the rag through the bowl's trap using a sawing motion to make sure that a pen is not stuck in the trap.
This should verify whether the bowl's trap is clear or not.


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