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oldhouseguy 04-24-2012 11:49 AM

clean out cap pipe is stripped
 
I had a very slow kitchen sink that got progressively worse in the last few weeks.

I finally had a chance to get to it.

I had to take off the 2 inch clean out cap in the basement in order to clean out the lines.

I bought a new cap, and now I find out that the old cap is corroded to the point that the metal pipe that it goes into has no threading left on it.

Is there a specialized piece or a trick to get this thing capped back off?

joecaption 04-24-2012 11:55 AM

One of the many reason that old steel pipe need to go and be replaced with PVC at some point.

There is no great way to do it, might try a few wraps of teflon tape and some Rector seal pipe dope.

Or an expanding test plug.
http://rectorseal.com/RectorSeal-T-Plus-2.php

oldhouseguy 04-24-2012 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 906364)
One of the many reason that old steel pipe need to go and be replaced with PVC at some point.

There is no great way to do it, might try a few wraps of teflon tape and some Recto seal pipe dope.

Or an expanding test plug.

yep, I agree with you completely.

I need this to get sealed up for a few months and then I will hopefully run new pipe all the way down. That is when I plan to do the new kitchen sink and I might as well do it all when I do it. Yuck.

I will now google expanding test plug to see what that is.

Thank you.

joecaption 04-24-2012 12:13 PM

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0069QVTCM/...SIN=B0069QVTCM

oldhouseguy 04-24-2012 02:39 PM

ok, I purchased one of those, seemed like it would work.

It didn't really seal up very well, so i look closer and see that the pipe that the clean out is on is cracked.

To be honest, when I rooted out the drain line, I was shocked at how much gook is in there.

I need to rerun the drain line to the basement.

I've never done this before in a kitchen.

I guess I will run 2 inch PVC and then tie it into the main drain in the basement.

Can the kitchen drain line go straight down through the floor?

This one twists and turns and goes behind the cabinets and exits.

I would much prefer to run the new line, connect it all up and then remove the old one. We only have one kitchen and having it out of commission for too long is a strain.

plummen 04-24-2012 03:10 PM

Many areas will require it to be replaced with same type of material unless you replace the vent all the way up into the attic/roof depending on where it ties in :)

oldhouseguy 04-24-2012 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by plummen (Post 906500)
Many areas will require it to be replaced with same type of material unless you replace the vent all the way up into the attic/roof depending on where it ties in :)

Thanks for the tip.

I have just realized this job is probably too big for me.

I will research it tonight and call a plumber tomorrow, at least then I will know what I am talking about when I talk to them.

Thanks everyone.

oldhouseguy 04-24-2012 03:24 PM

If the section with the cleanout is cracked, can this section only be removed and replaced by a plumber?

plummen 04-24-2012 03:33 PM

Yes,you can probably do it yourself with a good recip saw.
Just find an old ma-pa hardware store,many of them still have cast iron fittings stashed in the back.

Alan 04-24-2012 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by plummen (Post 906500)
Many areas will require it to be replaced with same type of material unless you replace the vent all the way up into the attic/roof depending on where it ties in :)

This is one of those rules I think they need to back off on. How ridiculous that someone can't patch a leaky pipe without replacing the entire thing.


Say you're in this situation and you have no money. You can scrape together enough to patch it, but not to replace the whole thing, which will likely require sheetrock repair and paint, etc, etc, etc. . . .

So option A : You decide to leave it. The city does a smoke test on the sewer lines and tells you that you have a broken line and it MUST be fixed. You then respond that you can't afford to do it properly. I wonder what they say to this.


Or option B : You patch the broken section of pipe, knowing full well that the pipe is possibly failing and bound to give you more problems down the road, and nobody ever knows anything about it but you.

:whistling2:

ben's plumbing 04-24-2012 09:46 PM

yes I agree with alan that pipe can and should be only repaired....they also make fernco caps of differant size to cap openings..use it on tee to cap off where plug was rusted in...

plummen 04-24-2012 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan (Post 906820)
This is one of those rules I think they need to back off on. How ridiculous that someone can't patch a leaky pipe without replacing the entire thing.


Say you're in this situation and you have no money. You can scrape together enough to patch it, but not to replace the whole thing, which will likely require sheetrock repair and paint, etc, etc, etc. . . .

So option A : You decide to leave it. The city does a smoke test on the sewer lines and tells you that you have a broken line and it MUST be fixed. You then respond that you can't afford to do it properly. I wonder what they say to this.


Or option B : You patch the broken section of pipe, knowing full well that the pipe is possibly failing and bound to give you more problems down the road, and nobody ever knows anything about it but you.

:whistling2:

Weve both been down that road enough times over the years,theres plenty of ways to make things work that will last just as long as a repiping job.
The problem being that anytime you try and give somebody a tried and true low buck way of making something work till they have the time/money to make a permanent fix the powers that be come out of nowhere like the army of darkness and nail you to the nearest wall on here.
Personally Ive been nailed to enough walls on here so I try and play it safe! :laughing:

ben's plumbing 04-24-2012 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plummen (Post 906852)
Weve both been down that road enough times over the years,theres plenty of ways to make things work that will last just as long as a repiping job.
The problem being that anytime you try and give somebody a tried and true low buck way of making something work till they have the time/money to make a permanent fix the powers that be come out of nowhere like the army of darkness and nail you to the nearest wall on here.
Personally Ive been nailed to enough walls on here so I try and play it safe! :laughing:

yes but thats why we have big shoulders...and we should come to each others defense..... no bashing...just loving...:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

oldhouseguy 04-25-2012 10:54 AM

I am going to take a picture when I am in the basement and then I have a couple of questions about this.

Stay tuned!

Thanks to everyone for their thoughts, it means more to me as a non-plumber than you know!

plummen 04-25-2012 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ben's plumbing (Post 906854)
yes but thats why we have big shoulders...and we should come to each others defense..... no bashing...just loving...:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

Ive had enough spikes driven into my shoulders,its starting to hurt! :laughing:
Its really bad over on the home inspectors forum I check in on occasionally,Id be willing to bet the average 1st year apprentice in any trade has more real world experiance than most of them but they can recite the NEC and UPC really good without actually knowing the reason for any of the codes! :laughing:


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