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Mjolnir 12-26-2011 06:27 PM

Can't level shower drain for mortar shower pan install
 
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i am trying to do a dry fit on a shower drain. it goes in crooked and is so tight and hard to get it in any further. the deeper it goes the more crooked it is.
im pretty sure the rough-in drain is not leveled. the only way i can get it to level is skim the contacts so that 1/8" of an inch is contact with the shower drain and pipe. i dont want to do anything drastic like cutting the pipe and redo the traps etc to get it leveled. any other options?

Bud Cline 12-26-2011 06:32 PM

That must be fixed. You wouldn't want to force it and stay-it, then have it crack later under the strain.

You need to go into the floor and do that correctly before you go any further.

jproffer 12-26-2011 06:34 PM

Is the pipe that far off level?? Looks like a LOT.

If so, I don't think the drain will level no matter what...you'll have to go below and redo the pipe so it's level...or at least closer than that

joecaption 12-26-2011 06:37 PM

Who did it like that?
The pipes got to be cut and put back together now. I'd use a hubless connector not a glued coupling to make sure it comes out right.

oh'mike 12-26-2011 06:40 PM

I agree--there are ways to correct a tiny outage --but that needs to be corrected--

plummen 12-26-2011 07:24 PM

Somebody put some serious fall in the pipe the trap is glued to! :eek:
can you undo the hangers and lower the pipe coming from pipe back to the stack any? :)

TheEplumber 12-26-2011 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by plummen (Post 803830)
Somebody put some serious fall in the pipe the trap is glued to! :eek:
can you undo the hangers and lower the pipe coming from pipe back to the stack any? :)

Is it not level due to pipe grade or is the trap rolled sideways a little?

plummen 12-26-2011 08:38 PM

If the trap rolled a little thats even easier fix,cut it off and glue a coupling on there. :)

ben's plumbing 12-26-2011 08:39 PM

that needs cut out from the bottom and replumbed......period......their is only one way..."the right way"

plummen 12-26-2011 08:41 PM

Thats what i meant,cut it ahead of the trap and straighten if its rolled.
Hard telling without seeing bottem of pipe :laughing:

ben's plumbing 12-26-2011 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by plummen (Post 803932)
Thats what i meant,cut it ahead of the trap and straighten if its rolled.
Hard telling without seeing bottem of pipe :laughing:

yep... no need to see the bottom as you and I said cut it off and replumb....:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing :

Mjolnir 12-26-2011 09:35 PM

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initially there was a fiberglass shower pan and rubber gasket for the drain. that's how the house was built i guess.

i was afraid ya would say fix it the right way. that would involve cutting up the subfloor n pipes. the pipe goes through a joist and immediately right turns into a trap and up to the drain.

the pipe has some give in multiple directions, just when you go beyond that range of motion there is some stress on the pipe. i was able to get it level as you can see from the pic but the drain and pipe are in contact like 1/16 to 1/8" because the pipe becomes short when adding 15/32" subfloor layer but it is not connecting flush.

would it be possible to extend the pipe and join it to the outside circumference of the shower drain, looks to be 3.5" to resolve the pipe being too short? i think there is enough give in the pipe. or couple the existing pipe and have the drain join to the inside circumference? that would mean i would only need to extend the pipe 1" is that possible?

plummen 12-26-2011 09:39 PM

can you get at bottem side of plumbing without cutting up the floor?

TheEplumber 12-26-2011 09:45 PM

shorten the pipe to allow for a coupling. Don't join to the outside of the drain body.

jproffer 12-26-2011 09:50 PM

Ya know....if our resident master.....well everything...if he was here, we could end this discussion..he could tell us all how to fix that without reworking anything... :whistling2::thumbup:


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