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Old 05-10-2010, 05:21 PM   #1
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frost line in my area is 36 in. i can only get down about 12-16 inchesi need to run hot and cold water about 50 feet to my shed. how do i keep lines from freezing?

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Old 05-10-2010, 05:26 PM   #2
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Keep the water off and drained in freezing weather or dig deeper?

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Old 05-10-2010, 07:06 PM   #3
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Insulate and heat trace the pipes if it is allowable under local code.
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Old 05-10-2010, 07:39 PM   #4
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frost line in my area is 36 in. i can only get down about 12-16 inchesi need to run hot and cold water about 50 feet to my shed. how do i keep lines from freezing?
How about running the water lines through 3" ABS pipe and pull a heating cable in there, with them!
If the heating cable goes bad, you can pull it out and replace it with a new one!
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What are you running into past 12-16" ?
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Old 05-11-2010, 01:34 AM   #6
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What are you running into past 12-16" ?
That's what I'm wondering too... My first inclination is to say "buy a bigger pick". Actually, the ground around my yard was so hard that I bought a 5# railroad pick to do my digging.

Another option is renting a trencher. That should be able to get you below 2.5 feet with a little hand digging to get the last few inches.

The other thing, the dirt is easier to dig if it has some moisture content. If it's been a while since you got a good rain, you may want to use a garden hose to MOISTEN (not wet) the trench for easier digging.

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