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Old 04-26-2011, 12:52 PM   #16
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Old 04-26-2011, 01:58 PM   #17
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The basement was aired out with fans and then it tested with a "Combustable Gas tester". Was said that there were no toxic gasses. The tester was inserted into the cap of the sewer drain and detected no gasses. If the tester was accually inside the pipe... and nothing was detected, then it seems that the gas tester is the wrong product to use because there are definetely toxic fumes inside a sewer pipe that can make you sick, you would think right
While there is methane in sewer gas and natural gas is largely composed of methane, the concentration is vastly different. As well, there are other gases in a sewer that are unhealthy that are not methane nor are the combustible.

if there is a blockage (which if the snake handle went below any drain connections there likely is) you need to get that taken care of. Since you did it, I would suggest it is your cost to have a real plumber come and fix it at your cost.

The toilet mount needs to be repaired. Maybe he can fix it while there and save somebody a couple bucks by making one service call instead of two.

you need to turn this guy into whomever deals with rental habitability laws and be done with it. If you don't, it is then upon you to choose to be living in the situation and have no right to complain.

All of your complaints to the LL need to me in writing and sent certified mail.

and how do you know there is a build up of fecal matter and especially at that point in the system? or there is a crack in the drain?
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" just move"

I agree. By staying there you may develop a permanent allergy or breathing problem. Long term exposure to those gases, mold and even bleach fumes can trigger lung problems/permanent chemical sensitivities. Sounds like a house of horrors anyway.
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Another look at the mold, there is a possible crack in foundation. Here is a diagram of my theory of the mold in the air. The ventelation was shut off completely so that testing can be done. A very musty smell in the air and strong reaction after about 5 minutes of gathering some things and feeding fish. The reaction the other day while the fans were going and windows were open was very low.
Also a picture of the corner of the foundation after the sump pump went out. Notice the water that seems to run UPWARD from the crack in the corner. This could be the explination for toxic mold being present and having large reactions to the spores.

I agree with yuri with the development of allergy and breathing problem, long term exposure is what got me, while I could function fine for a long time in the environment. It eventually catches up even if it's a small problem. A family member recently bought a house with small amount toxic mold and it had to be condemned and abandoned.

Can anyone else see the theory? These pics are after the sump was unplugged and water built up in the basement. If the foundation was sealed the water wouldnt run in the crack like in the pictures. It would puddle up rather than run up the cracks. The water was built up all around the house and It seemed to seep up from the ground.
Thanks for keepin her open super mod! I'm hoping this forum helps others because it helped me out a ton, I am definitely out of the house I'm also trying to help the current residence who refuse any problem whatsoever, when there obviously is.

I just helped try to get the handle out, I luckily wasn't the one who got it stuck in there. I urged to call a real plumber or roto rooter when the drain started backing up with water. A snake unclogged something in the pipe, a root or something. Then it backed up again a few days later, more snakin' and some plumbers juice in the pipes solved the drain issue, but not the bubbling.
I just put a small spot of fecal matter in the diagram, I assume it's built up evenly throughout that large piping system. The crack in the pipe is just a possibility, trying to explain the bubbling/leaking toilet issue.
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there is no way to determine if mold is "toxic mold" without lab testing. Try contacting your health department to see if they have any means to do the testing or if they have knowledge of a lab that does.
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If the toilet is bubbling it means that there is gas pressure forcing methane into the house. Methane is explosive and could blow the whole building down. With fatal consequence.
Normally sewer gases are vented out a roof vent. If there is a pressure buildup in the waste pipe I would suspect that the vent is blocked or is non-existent.
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CONCLUSION: I placed a toxic mold test kit in the house to try to determine the problem. My rights were violated while somebody threw the kit away, wasting my money also my things in the house were packed up and thrown around by some drunk idiots because I have no means to enter the house or get my things out immediately. Even wearing a mask I can feel the spores hit the lungs causing an instant allergic reaction, while spores build in the lungs it causes me asthma attack and dillusion. I saw the allergist again and somehow mold testing was overlooked. There is also toxic mold at my workplace so I am now pretty much a "bubble boy". Thanks to overuse of antibiotic's (6-7 FULL COURSES! EVEN CHLAMIDIA SHOTS WHEN I DIDN'T HAVE IT!) while being in the mold infested house and doctor's not listening to my entire situation they jumped to a conclusion and gave me an insane amount of antibiotic's for NO REASON. It destroyed almost all immunity to mold and other pollen's. Thanks to our city's Health care and Irresponsible landowner's I can't even work at my job or live at my home. I can't even hang out at my friend's house because the apartment also has a high concentration of toxic mold and I am now deathly allergic to even tiny amounts. That means no parks, or being near people mowing their lawn, big deal for me... I can't kick hack at the park anymore or play frisbee golf without suffering.

I was forced to move my fish tanks out, killing almost all of my aquatic creature's. Among them danyo's, cichlid's and piranha. While it was agreed that I could have time to move them a week earlier, I was told it would be drained killing all of my fish if I didn't move it out that night because they thought the tanks caused the mold in the house.

While I moved my things out I found a wet spot in the carpet in the corner of the room causing my health problems, a PILE OF CENTIPEDE'S and a strong reaction to that air in the corner... even with a mask on. It's assumed a giant pile of toxic mold and possibly gas is escaping through the crack in the foundation in the wall. My tanks were completely blamed for causing the mold when it is clearly somewhere else. Not only are the residents upstairs not using their fan on purpose to cause humid air, they are purposely trapping the moisture just to place blame on me to get me out of the house... COMPLETELY INSANE!!!

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another guy lives there and is having no problems?
Just as I predicted a roommate upstairs started getting sick, waking up in sweat just as I did. Then a hospital trip with antibiotics, just like what happened to me. They won't listen to a word I say about the mold and gas. They say it's from 100% humidity from my fish tanks in the basement. Then I say it's the mold getting to him... but nope it's "humidity" from my tanks. The tanks are now empty, my fish are dead, and I'm sure they will air it out and use their fan all the time now that I'm gone... hoping the problems solved.

There was recently a third person living upstairs and showering without the fan on ever... Long steamy showers has made the ceiling peel worse than it was before I moved in (it was moisture damaged before I ever lived there, and he's saying IT WASN'T!! I remember hearing about the ceiling peeling above the shower before I moved there). They modified the fan so they can shower without getting the moisture out... I've never heard them use the fan. On purpose? (EVEN IF THEY USE THE FAN IT'S BLOWING INTO THE ATTICK, BUILDING MOISTURE AND CAUSING MOLD TO SPREAD!)

Now a "professional" was hired to blame my tanks. He walked around the house and supposedly said "it's probably the tanks..." There was NO professional... It was made up. While the humidity is trapped upstairs they made me kill my fish and move my tanks out of the basement ruining my home business. There was no mention of cracks in foundation to the pro, no mention of possible pipe leaks or toilet bubbling, just hired and "fish tanks" was thrown in his face and came to the UNSURE CONCLUSION of aquariums that evaporate 2 gallons a week causing "100% humidity" upstairs, while showering about 2 hours a day causes I would assume way more humidity... ?

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I had moisture problems and the water was much less than 2 gallons per week.

I used a dehumidifier to reduce the humidity. Did you try a dehumidifier?
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A dehumidifier and a quality air filter has been on my list for many months, thanks for mentioning it WILDIE, I knew there was pollen in the air since I moved in... it's too bad it couldn't wait 2 weeks because that was the difference between getting paid and when the mold problem occurred (within a week of shutting off the home ventelation fan system, and exactly when it dethawed outside).

The guy is smart enough to know the moisture would build up that's why I know it was done on purpose to rub the problem in my face. The two monkey's teamed up against me in the months earlier, for some odd reason. Alcoholic Kids..

The LL could have taken a few small steps to prevent it from happening, we worked out the rent and payment issue's. He has "perfect credit" so there's no reason he couldn't have gotton one and let me pay him back as mentioned.

If I had the problem owning a house I would have went and got one right away instead of blaming the tanks when I had permission to have them in the first place, the basement didn't have any humidity problems. I used the bathroom fan consistantly, also radiant heaters kept it from building up, drying the air.

Unfortunately being between jobs kept me from making the trip to walmart... then got sick and racked up the med bills... bad luck and circumstances.

I now have enough money to pay off most of the rent and get the filter's... but I might need to pay a lawyer instead , because I can't breath at work either! Work isn't helping with the mold around the shop, and doctor's never listened to me... My health is almost non existant but my attitude is still positive somehow . (I have now bleached the foundation cracks with pure bleach and sprayer, solving the problem of toxic mold spores in the air. Orange peel testing now shows NO MOLD! While the coffee machine would get moldy OVER THE WEEKEND!! Only when shop doors are opened is there allergies noticed. I now need to huddle next to a HEPA filter at home, in my car and at work... A daily dose of FENUGREEK clears up the mold stuck in my lungs and head!

The resident's have just finally realized there's mold in the wall next to my bed, also in the attick. Yep the attick, completely sealed off from the rest of the house (how would my tank moisture go through a sealed wall?). The bathroom vent was vented into the attick, which is already a humid place (bad idea in the first place). When the 3 people shower and use the fan, it would fill the attick with very humid damp air, causing the mold to spread from the basement to attick.

A humidifier has been installed in the basement 2 weeks after the tanks were drained with little or no results, as I predicted the moisture and humidity problem is still there, coming out of the cracks in the foundation. Also since the sump pump soaked all the walls around the basement of the house it's just gonna get worse, and worse. I said I would drill holes in the walls and air it out the day it happened so the mold doesn't grow in all of the walls, but I was just told... "fish tanks... fish tanks... fish tanks..." Ignoring the problem and placing blame on an innocent victim (me), making me kill my fish and giving no notice to drain my tanks, also threatening to drain my tanks and kill all of my amazon fish because of the hunch of the tank being the source of the problem when it really wasn't.

The tanks were in the house for almost 2 years with no problems, two extra roommates 3 months before the incident (1 a girl with extra long showers), and exactly as the snow dethawed the problem arose. Being consistant with mold in the foundation, spreading through the house like wildfire. The extra roommates using the shower spread the moisture into the sealed off attick slowly making it worse as it warmed up. (FISH TANK MOISTURE?? NO...) With toxic mold in the walls, attick and foundation the house should be condemned but is still being rented out by an unknowing-to-be-victim.

While moving my last things out I suffered an asthma attack breathing the air, I now have to carry an INHALER for the rest of my life unless I can find a special allergy injection ($1000 or more and not available for all TOXIC MOLD).


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