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Old 02-04-2014, 07:23 PM   #16
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I'm not so much brand specific but have had delta for along time with good reliability.

If we set brands aside for a moment and read the leaking / not working correctly problems just here on this forum I think without a doubt you'll find the single handle fixtures are far more prone to be in the "leaking or doesn't work right" category. Some might say there are so many more of those as opposed to the 2 knob fixtures but even if there were the ratios just don't add up. I'm the two knob/handle reliable type person.
All faucets leak after a while. Leaking is caused by the minerals in the water, any chemicals that dry out the rubber parts, along with how much use it gets.

It does not matter the brand. The faucet will leak after a few years. I am due to replace the gaskets in my bath this Summer, even though they are not leaking. It is just the one part of being a home owner, that you deal with.

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I'm not so much brand specific but have had delta for along time with good reliability.

If we set brands aside for a moment and read the leaking / not working correctly problems just here on this forum I think without a doubt you'll find the single handle fixtures are far more prone to be in the "leaking or doesn't work right" category. Some might say there are so many more of those as opposed to the 2 knob fixtures but even if there were the ratios just don't add up. I'm the two knob/handle reliable type person.
Twice the moving psrts to break, twice the parts to carry on van.
I can swap an average moen cartridge out in about 10 mins if the shut offs are working.
Pulling cups/springs out of a 2 handle faucet and putting things back together is a big pain .
The easiest /best way to fix a leaking 2 handle faucet is to replace it with a good single handle faucet! Hahaha
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I'm not so much brand specific but have had delta for along time with good reliability.

If we set brands aside for a moment and read the leaking / not working correctly problems just here on this forum I think without a doubt you'll find the single handle fixtures are far more prone to be in the "leaking or doesn't work right" category. Some might say there are so many more of those as opposed to the 2 knob fixtures but even if there were the ratios just don't add up. I'm the two knob/handle reliable type person.
Did you ever think that more are installed?
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plummen, I actually found that Ace Hardware carries a Bibb Set kit with two different sizes of Seat & Springs for the Delta, Delex, Peerless faucets. When I had to repair our single handle Danco. The kit works for the Danco Single handle. I love the fact that our Kitchen faucet has a Brass valve and the ball is also brass, not steel.
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plummen, I actually found that Ace Hardware carries a Bibb Set kit with two different sizes of Seat & Springs for the Delta, Delex, Peerless faucets. When I had to repair our single handle Danco. The kit works for the Danco Single handle. I love the fact that our Kitchen faucet has a Brass valve and the ball is also brass, not steel.
In my service van I have some of those plastic flip top boxes with dividers that are full of differant flat and beveled washers and cups/springs........
In one of the other bins I have 2 moen cartridges, ones a regular cartridge and the other is a posi temp.
Between those 2 cartridges I can fix any moen single handle faucet.
Gotta love simplicity, the small block chevy of the plumbing world.
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I'll add Hans Grohe to the list of good valves.
And I'll add that almost every line valves have their lower end product
Symmons is good too but I pity the repairman
I hate working on symmons products.
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Twice the moving psrts to break, twice the parts to carry on van.
I can swap an average moen cartridge out in about 10 mins if the shut offs are working.
Pulling cups/springs out of a 2 handle faucet and putting things back together is a big pain .
The easiest /best way to fix a leaking 2 handle faucet is to replace it with a good single handle faucet! Hahaha
This is a DIY site if I recall and I can replace two cartridges before the average home owner can find the hidden set screw to remove the single handle.
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Did you ever think that more are installed?
Try re-reading my reply. Watch for the numbers. They're there if you look.
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I'm not so much brand specific but have had delta for along time with good reliability.

If we set brands aside for a moment and read the leaking / not working correctly problems just here on this forum I think without a doubt you'll find the single handle fixtures are far more prone to be in the "leaking or doesn't work right" category. Some might say there are so many more of those as opposed to the 2 knob fixtures but even if there were the ratios just don't add up. I'm the two knob/handle reliable type person.
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This is a DIY site if I recall and I can replace two cartridges before the average home owner can find the hidden set screw to remove the single handle.
Its not that complicated to figure out.
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Moen and Delta would both be considered traditional faucets. Both brands offer features such as handheld spray and ceramic cartridges. One feature that may put Delta ahead of the competition would be the new touch-activated feature
http://www.moen.com/whats-new/innovation/motionsense

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Another cool thing about moen is the mpact line or whatever they call it these days, easily upgraded.
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Aviva, not all large name brand fixture companies are the same quality. Each one has different lines, and each line is going to vary from one company to the other. One company may use all plastic valves, another may use all brass valves, in all of their fixtures, no matter if it is in the economy line, or commercial line.

Quality in lines is all going to be the same with all manufacturers. They copy each other, so that it gives consumers choices in which brand name they want, but do not want to pay the higher prices for the same style fixture with one of the "BMW" companies.
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I've seen some designer faucets in Lowes that go in excess of a thousand dollars! That's just nuts. I'v had good luck with the Delta 1700 series bath faucet i installed 3 years ago. It gets heavy use. They sent me a replacement cartridge valued at 40 dollars or so free of charge. It is warranted for life. I've also had good luck with the Moen fixtures I've used.
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All this bickering!!
I've been doing this since 1974 and have installed, or repaired, almost every brand of faucet known to modern man (or woman...don't start!)
IMO Moen is the brand that I have installed and recommended for all those years. Reasons...they stand behind their products completely and if needed will send parts out to you usually free of charge. Most parts are readily available at the big box stores for quick repairs.
I once had to replace the hose on a Grohe kitchen faucet and it cost me $80.00...WOW I about fell through the floor.
And what's wrong with plastic valves or cartridges? All of Moen faucets have brass "valve bodies", and plastic doesn't corrode.
I could go on... but that's my opinion.
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Ive got customers I installed moen faucets for 20 plus years ago that are still working as installed.
Ive also gone into houses with 30 plus year old moen chateau faucets that just needed a new cartridge that were good for another 10 years.
I had gerber and wolverine brass catalogs I carried around forever , never sold anything out of either because nobody wanted to pay their prices.
Just finished remodeling a master bath that had Moen faucets that were still working well after 19 years. That is, no problems. We chose to stick with the brand but we upgraded to higher-end models. Side note: Make sure to find out what type of valve you have in your shower--standard, posi-temp, pressure-balancing etc..it will determine your range of choices for the new shower faucets.

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