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Old 08-06-2006, 09:04 PM   #91
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Ron, if you suggest to switch to 3inc, I'll do it! Give me your address so I can ship you 9 1/2 feet of 4inc drain pipe, and 9 1/2 feet of 3inc pipe. I only needed a few inches and had to buy the entire 10' length, lol!!! I will go with what you suggest, everything you have told me on this forum has worked beautifully, and I will post pictures when I get a chance so people can see your work!!!!!!! Thanks, let me know, 3 or 4 or short 90?

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Old 08-06-2006, 09:22 PM   #92
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When you get back to the plumbing store take the 3" and a 4" short turn, set them side by side, and see the difference in radius, they my not have a short turn 4" St 90 there.

So you say your going to be 2" above the fininsh floor with the 4" hub 90, that hub equal 1-1/2" depth, switch to the street takes that much away, this may still set you 1/2" too high after the street 4" 90, normal rough install of pipe of fitting needs to be 1/4" below finish floor, then adding the flange hub or street style sets the flange at proper height top of flange 1/4" above the finish floor.

If they do not have the street 4" 90, then go with the 3" short turn 90, what that means is you will now have to purchase to 4 x 3 closet flange and also get that 4 x 3 fernco for the transition point.

Make sure you do the measuring and test fit at the store, this way you won't make several trips to get this right.

Your all confused now, I hope you make heads or tails out of that.

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Will do Ron, Thanks!
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Ron, you are the man!!!!! You really know your stuff!!!!! I went to the plumbing supply and compared the 4inc 90 with the 4inc short bend. They did have it, and it looked as it would work since it was much shorter. Took it home to test, and realized it wasn't going to work. I went back and got the fernco 4 to 3, 3inc pvc and the toilet flange and I know for a fact its going to work. For some reason when they built the house ,the 4inc. stack is kind of high on the rough out. Luckily for me I realized I never cut the 4 inc 10ft pipe, so they will be getting it back!!! Thanks, I should have listen to you on the first place, but I just thought I was going to take away from the 4inc drain and make the toilet work harder! Do you use the 4 to 3 inc drain alot for toilets? I'm just curious. Thanks, Ron
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Using a 4 x 3 closet flange, there is never a problem with it, it's code and we use them all the time in new construction, easier to work with over 4" anyday.
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Hey Ron, I put in the fernco 4 to 3 for the transition, then I put a short piece of 3inc pvc, then I put the short turn 90 degree. I had to put the toilet flange right into the short turn, otherwise it would of not made it. Its 1 1/4 inc above the subfloor now, but with the cement board and tiles, I should be okay. Is it okay to do it this way? Also when you get a chance can you do me a layout like you did for the drains, but this time for the water lines? Thanks, I really appreciate all the help you have given me. Thanks
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I put in the fernco 4 to 3 for the transition, then I put a short piece of 3inc pvc, then I put the short turn 90 degree. I had to put the toilet flange right into the short turn, otherwise it would of not made it. Its 1 1/4 inc above the subfloor now, but with the cement board and tiles, I should be okay. Is it okay to do it this way?
When you say into, do you mean flange slips onto the the 90, or did you need to add a short stub of pipe between the 90 and flange? Is that to the top of flange? if so and your going to add 1" of flooring. should be fine if this is so.

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Also when you get a chance can you do me a layout like you did for the drains, but this time for the water lines?
Are the lines to be in the wall?

Give me time to draw it up.

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Yes Ron, the flange slips right into the 90 elbow, with NO piece of pipe. Is this acceptable? If I put a piece of pipe, I will be over the finished floor. Yes the water lines will be running along the wall. Thanks
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Thats fine,

Run 3/4 for cold, it looks like the lines run right to left, do this, 3/4" cold feed, tee for toilet, 3/4 x 1/2 x 1/2" tee. now run 1/2" after the tee to toilet, 1/2" feed to sink, tee over to tub.

Hot can be 1/2" to the sink and to the tub.

Drawing it out is not as easy as you think. just drill holes and offset the holes that the pipe will go through, off sets will allow you to run pipe past each other if needed at the sink and tub with out them touching.

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Okay, so run 3/4 for cold only? 1/2 for all hot?
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Hey Ron, do I run 3/4 for cold and 1/2 for hot, or can I run 1/2 for both? My source coming from the basement is about 12ft away. Thanks
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It depends on the code you use, here no more the 7 fixture units allows on one 1/2" line, Tub is 3 sink is 2 and toilet is 3, that makes eight, so here I would need to run 3/4" to the toilet and 1/2" there after, I don't know your code, so you have to make that call.
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Got it, Thanks Ron
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Hey Ron, is this okay? I beleive I have to change that tee on the left of the picture, otherwise the water wii roll back into the vent stack.
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The santee is that vent to tub? If so it need to come up in a 45 degree angle then offset to the wall.

The santee in the floor is backwards

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