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Beepster 01-15-2012 08:59 PM

Basement Bathroom Rough In - A Big OOOOOPS!
 
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I was cutting out the concrete floor in the basement with a concrete saw to put in my below grade PVC drain and tie in to the casr iron drain. I was a second or two from shutting the saw off when a geyser erupted from my floor. Yep, that would be the water supply line.

Panic struck and I quick run up the stairs to call the city's water emergency (on a Saturday). The guy said he would be there in 30 minutes. I went back downstairs and put a bucket over the geyser to keep it from hitting the joists (should have done that immediately). The water drained into the floor drain and an old shower drain which were within feet. The water was all contained and drained, so there was no flood.

Water guy showed up and got out his metal detector to try and find the shut off. Last year at this time there would have been a HUGE snowbank where he was looking. No snow as of yet in the Twin Cities. It took a bit to find, a couple feet down. Once there, he got out his tool and shut it off.

I was able to plug with plumbers putty, wrap a piece of rubber hose around, and put hose clamps on. Turned the water back on (dude was nice enough to leave the special tool) and no leaks. I was able to finish out my work this weekend without having to call a plumber on the weekend ($$$). I will get him out in the next day or two. It turns out that the supply line is running right across where the toilet will be so I would have had to have him come out anyhow.

The water supply line was laying on top the dirt when they poured the concrete floor, not buried down and coming out of the floor vertically. LESSON FOR OTHERS: just because something SHOULD be a certain way, don't assume it is. I assumed the water line was buried beneath the concrete floor and paid the price.

I guess as major f-ups go, I am not in the hospital and the house is still standing, so it is not so bad.

B

joecaption 01-15-2012 09:03 PM

PS and that copper pipe will also leak at some point from ground and concrete contact.

VIPlumber 01-15-2012 09:19 PM

Yup that copper will leak at some point, installed like that. You may want to consider cutting up your floor, carefully, and burying that line properly. Around here we need 12" min of sand around water pipe to protect from hard, sharp objects. And pipe needs to be sleeved when coming up through concrete, either ABS or PVC will do.

TheEplumber 01-15-2012 09:42 PM

May be difficult but consider running a new water service over head.

VIPlumber 01-15-2012 09:43 PM

^Good alternative.

biggles 01-16-2012 06:06 AM

definetly repipe it over head and get an inside shutoff valve for futures. if you go copper on the repipe might want to insulate it for summerstime, and the dripping onto the floor...i like the bucket and block

TarheelTerp 01-16-2012 08:34 AM

was there really no water shutoff valve on the INSIDE of the house?

Beepster 01-16-2012 08:39 AM

I am just going to have the plumber repipe the last five feet to the water meter buried and coming out perpendicular to the floor, install quarter turn lever shut offs on each side of the water meter, and slightly reconfigure the pipes by the water meter to allow for the new walls. I am not going to mess with anything closer to the street. It has to start getting deeper on its way to the street (I would hope). It has to pass under the footings for the center load bearing walls in about five feet.

Yes, all of the above ideas would make for a longer lasting pipe. Thanks for the input.

B

oh'mike 01-16-2012 08:40 AM

He nipped the line before the meter--and shut off---

Follow the advice above--re do the line---


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