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When adding a basement floor cleanout do you usually use a WYE fitting tied into septic or sewer with a cleanout adapter attached to it?
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03-03-2013, 01:24 PM
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Always.
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03-03-2013, 01:24 PM
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When adding a basement floor cleanout do you usually use a WYE fitting tied into septic or sewer with a cleanout adapter attached to it?
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Yes, a wye and 45. You can buy clean outs with finished tops
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03-03-2013, 03:22 PM
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Yes, a wye and 45. You can buy clean outs with finished tops
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I hate to beat a dead horse on this subject but I get different answers from people. When you have a 2 story house is most likely there will be 2 stacks? One serving basement and 1 story and the other serving the 2nd story or is it more common to just re-vent all the fixtures from the 1st floor so there no wet vented by 2nd story fixtures?
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03-03-2013, 03:44 PM
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I hate to beat a dead horse on this subject but I get different answers from people. When you have a 2 story house is most likely there will be 2 stacks? One serving basement and 1 story and the other serving the 2nd story or is it more common to just re-vent all the fixtures from the 1st floor so there no wet vented by 2nd story fixtures?
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Put 6 plumbers in a house and you'll have it plumbed 6 different ways.
I try to wet vent as often as possible mainly because it saves time, fittings and pipe. Your question is too vague to give a definitive answer
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03-03-2013, 05:23 PM
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Put 6 plumbers in a house and you'll have it plumbed 6 different ways.
I try to wet vent as often as possible mainly because it saves time, fittings and pipe. Your question is too vague to give a definitive answer
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I was told you can wet vent fixtures that are on the same level but is it true you cant wet vent fixtures on the first floor from second floor fixtures?
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03-03-2013, 06:17 PM
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I was told you can wet vent fixtures that are on the same level but is it true you cant wet vent fixtures on the first floor from second floor fixtures?
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see section 908.0 (UPC) http://www.iapmo.org/California%20Pl...apter%2009.pdf
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03-03-2013, 06:49 PM
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I am not a plumbing expert. Can you please sum this up for based on my question of venting first and second story fixtures?
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03-03-2013, 07:20 PM
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I am not a plumbing expert. Can you please sum this up for based on my question of venting first and second story fixtures?
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when vertical wet venting-it is limited to 1 floor- there are also limits to what fixtures can discharge into the wet vented section.
You can have a wet vent on each floor too - no limit to how many wet vents.
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03-03-2013, 08:19 PM
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when vertical wet venting-it is limited to 1 floor- there are also limits to what fixtures can discharge into the wet vented section.
You can have a wet vent on each floor too - no limit to how many wet vents.
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Ok I understand that but what I am asking is can second story fixtures serve as a wet vent for first story fixtures?
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03-03-2013, 10:40 PM
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Ok I understand that but what I am asking is can second story fixtures serve as a wet vent for first story fixtures?
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Absolutely not.
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03-04-2013, 09:02 AM
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Absolutely not.
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Ok so then either the second story needs a separate vent secondary vent or the first floor fixtures need to revent at least 6 inches above the second floor fixtures?
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03-04-2013, 10:59 AM
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Ok so then either the second story needs a separate vent secondary vent or the first floor fixtures need to revent at least 6 inches above the second floor fixtures?
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Rather then ask questions that border line on riddles-show us the scenario. Most questions like this have more then one correct answer
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03-04-2013, 11:02 AM
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Rather then ask questions that border line on riddles-show us the scenario. Most questions like this have more then one correct answer
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riddles? I gave a specific scenario. If you can NOT wet vent fixtures from 1st to 2nd floor then you must re-vent or have a secondary stack, correct?
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03-04-2013, 12:10 PM
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riddles? I gave a specific scenario. If you can NOT wet vent fixtures from 1st to 2nd floor then you must re-vent or have a secondary stack, correct?
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Simple answer is correct. Each trap needs a vent. They don't have to combine to a common vent stack. If you have seven fixtures- you could have seven vents through the roof- or 2 or 4 or 1....... As I said before, 6 plumbers-6 ways. 
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