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mikem201 03-03-2013 12:17 PM

adding a cleanout
 
When adding a basement floor cleanout do you usually use a WYE fitting tied into septic or sewer with a cleanout adapter attached to it?

joecaption 03-03-2013 12:24 PM

Always.

TheEplumber 03-03-2013 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mikem201 (Post 1128988)
When adding a basement floor cleanout do you usually use a WYE fitting tied into septic or sewer with a cleanout adapter attached to it?

Yes, a wye and 45. You can buy clean outs with finished tops

mikem201 03-03-2013 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TheEplumber (Post 1129000)
Yes, a wye and 45. You can buy clean outs with finished tops

I hate to beat a dead horse on this subject but I get different answers from people. When you have a 2 story house is most likely there will be 2 stacks? One serving basement and 1 story and the other serving the 2nd story or is it more common to just re-vent all the fixtures from the 1st floor so there no wet vented by 2nd story fixtures?

TheEplumber 03-03-2013 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mikem201 (Post 1129086)
I hate to beat a dead horse on this subject but I get different answers from people. When you have a 2 story house is most likely there will be 2 stacks? One serving basement and 1 story and the other serving the 2nd story or is it more common to just re-vent all the fixtures from the 1st floor so there no wet vented by 2nd story fixtures?

Put 6 plumbers in a house and you'll have it plumbed 6 different ways.
I try to wet vent as often as possible mainly because it saves time, fittings and pipe. Your question is too vague to give a definitive answer

mikem201 03-03-2013 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TheEplumber (Post 1129110)
Put 6 plumbers in a house and you'll have it plumbed 6 different ways.
I try to wet vent as often as possible mainly because it saves time, fittings and pipe. Your question is too vague to give a definitive answer

I was told you can wet vent fixtures that are on the same level but is it true you cant wet vent fixtures on the first floor from second floor fixtures?

TheEplumber 03-03-2013 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mikem201 (Post 1129198)
I was told you can wet vent fixtures that are on the same level but is it true you cant wet vent fixtures on the first floor from second floor fixtures?

see section 908.0 (UPC) http://www.iapmo.org/California%20Pl...apter%2009.pdf

mikem201 03-03-2013 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheEplumber (Post 1129224)

I am not a plumbing expert. Can you please sum this up for based on my question of venting first and second story fixtures?

TheEplumber 03-03-2013 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mikem201 (Post 1129249)
I am not a plumbing expert. Can you please sum this up for based on my question of venting first and second story fixtures?

when vertical wet venting-it is limited to 1 floor- there are also limits to what fixtures can discharge into the wet vented section.
You can have a wet vent on each floor too - no limit to how many wet vents.

mikem201 03-03-2013 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheEplumber (Post 1129262)
when vertical wet venting-it is limited to 1 floor- there are also limits to what fixtures can discharge into the wet vented section.
You can have a wet vent on each floor too - no limit to how many wet vents.

Ok I understand that but what I am asking is can second story fixtures serve as a wet vent for first story fixtures?

Ghostmaker 03-03-2013 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mikem201 (Post 1129317)
Ok I understand that but what I am asking is can second story fixtures serve as a wet vent for first story fixtures?

Absolutely not.

mikem201 03-04-2013 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostmaker (Post 1129460)
Absolutely not.

Ok so then either the second story needs a separate vent secondary vent or the first floor fixtures need to revent at least 6 inches above the second floor fixtures?

TheEplumber 03-04-2013 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mikem201 (Post 1129589)
Ok so then either the second story needs a separate vent secondary vent or the first floor fixtures need to revent at least 6 inches above the second floor fixtures?

Rather then ask questions that border line on riddles-show us the scenario. Most questions like this have more then one correct answer

mikem201 03-04-2013 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TheEplumber (Post 1129659)
Rather then ask questions that border line on riddles-show us the scenario. Most questions like this have more then one correct answer

riddles? I gave a specific scenario. If you can NOT wet vent fixtures from 1st to 2nd floor then you must re-vent or have a secondary stack, correct?

TheEplumber 03-04-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mikem201 (Post 1129666)
riddles? I gave a specific scenario. If you can NOT wet vent fixtures from 1st to 2nd floor then you must re-vent or have a secondary stack, correct?

Simple answer is correct. Each trap needs a vent. They don't have to combine to a common vent stack. If you have seven fixtures- you could have seven vents through the roof- or 2 or 4 or 1....... As I said before, 6 plumbers-6 ways. :laughing:


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