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Old 09-15-2011, 04:23 PM   #16
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I doubt that you will catch a rat in a live trap-to cautious and they are neo-phobic. Fear of new things. It would take a long time till they acclimized to it. You can buy exterior grade bait stations-bait them with rodenticide of your choice, or several at once, such a bait blocks and meal; pellets and blocks, etc.

You wonít draw any rats that arenít already nearby. They all need to die.

In a previous post I suggested jerry rigging a fan at an exterior vent, pulling the air out. If you create a negative pressure in the crawl, however slight, it should help a lot with the odor. Anytime you run an exhaust fan inside, clothes dryer, etc you have negative air pressure in your living space compared to the crawl space. You donít need anything elaborate at the exterior vents, but something. Even a window fan using a simple cardboard duct taped together could help.

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Old 09-25-2011, 02:24 PM   #17
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Some say never use poison, unless you dont care/want to risk having to smell rotten carcasses for weeks afterward. Trapping is it, or ammonium hydroxide. Yup, an underrated/very much not understood chemical. NH4OH, about 10% concentrate. NOT the weak stuff from the grocery store- but the industrial strength. Just takes some work/patience cuz it evaporates, and youi have to keep adding it to the jar/whatever the evaporating vessel is.

I chased away a family of coons in my attic with ammonia. No other way to do it, actually, other than trapping coons- but who want to deal with that.

I found it available from ACE hardware, among others. Still, traps are best bet. There is no perfect way to get rid of rats. Just stay away from poison, geez.
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Hmm not a lot to report:

To Bugman - was pretty futile rigging any kid of fans as it started raining so thus meaning the corpse(s) are going to take longer to decompose?

I set 2 more traps inside the crawlspace opening along either side by the foundation. One loaded with Jiff and the other with cake icing. The poison trap is still down there as well but do not see any more material removed from it.

Since I posted last I have heard noises 2 times. Always around the SE corner of house and I thought they were possible under the house as it sounded amplified. I am not sure if chewing on the wire vent itself would be as loud but then again I suppose it could especially at night when everything is quiet. If there are more rats underneath they are taking a long time to die or have found another way into the crawlspace. I reinspected all the wire vents and all are intact. I also looked into the attic last night and there was no evidence
of Rat feces up there. It is a blown insulation and I guess I am not entirely sure of how rats move in attics and crawlspaces. Do they tend to stay along the walls? I am howver 100% sure if there are more rats underneath then they are getting their food source from the woods. I have checked the garage and the only food we have out there is dog food and treats and there is no indication -feces to be found.

IS there a food I can just place in the crawlspace entrance (ie bacon etc) that will confirm or make it certain they are gone?

Anyhow will keep you updated as I find time.

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Gary - keep at it. And thanks for the updates. Just to check... The dog food and treats are in sealed containers, right?

I only ask because I stacked some unopened chicken feed in my garage (until I could really put it away - we often leave our garage door open - so I should have known better). Overnight some rodent tore open the bag and the next morning all the sparrows in the neighborhood AND my chickens were in the garage enjoying brunch.
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Old 09-27-2011, 08:08 AM   #20
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Leah: Your chickens and sparrows now owe a big favor to whatever rodent accomodated them! Could turn into a conspiracy against you. Trust none of them! ha, ha.

Monto: Bacon would be good to bait the traps with; tie it onto the trigger with thread, floss, etc. Make sure that your rodent bait is fresh. Remeber, rats are neophobic, (fear of new things) so they must get used to the new traps, especially the older ones. Young rats are much easier to trap. You may not have rats anymore; sounds like you made a lot of progress. Be aware that if there are conducive conditions nearby, then you may often have rats wanting to harbor near your place. If there is an unchecked population nearby, then the over flow will go to you and surrounding neighbors. Consider purchasing an exterior grade bait station and keeping fresh rodenticide in it. Mature rats will run off the younger ones, which will be the overflow. Re-read my earlier posts for advice.
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Had to get my wife up this AM for her trip to Boston to take care of her mom who was in accident,. I was asleep in on of the rear bedrooms and I definately heard noises underneath me. Which verifies there are more rats.


So last night I was having an odd dream and there was an explosion in the dream that woke me up. Didn't think much of it at the time however I decided I was going to poison heavy underneath. I am way more willing to deal with dead decomposing rats than have them destroy under the house. Based on the what I have caught I appear to be dealing with a typical brown rat family. Fr4om what I googled they can have anywhere from 3-20 babies in the litter and due to the fact they were under there for awhile, these could be the babies? Maybe eating their dead poisoned family?

I am totally baffled how they are getting in. I went around the house again and rechecked every wire vent and again saw no entry points. There are 4 exceptions to this however. Along 2 sides of our house we have 3 overhangs. Portions of the wall built out. They accomodate our kitchen sink/cabinet, Fireplace and walkin closet in the main bedroom. All of these areas have access under them. Although the 2 with the sink and firepalce have no vents under them. It is possible however the walkin closet does. Also in this picture is we have a deck at the rear of the house which also could have another vent under it.

This morning I went down and bought the pellet feeding station as well as the green blocks you can put in places. So I threw 1 block under each over hang (my dogs cannot get under there and another under the deck. When I went to place the feeding station in the crawlspace I realized one of the traps was gone. So I am hoping the sucker is dying somewhere and it also explains the explosion in my dream also. I am going to rebait the jiff trap with icing and see what happens.

I am willing to go without heat this winter from the furnace as long as I know the rats are dead.

So is it possible I am dealing with family members that are still under there? I have caught 3 rats so far - 2 in the garage and the other at the crawlspace access point.

Hopefully have more news by tomorrow.


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Years ago, I had a toilet in my basement that nobody ever used.

I ran a dehumidifier and the water all dried out of it.

I got a sewer rat down there. It climbed through the pipes, I guess it is common.

It died.

There is no mistaking the smell of a dead rat. It is not a "I wonder if." kind of smell.

It was like the size of a small cat.

I feel your pain.

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