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Rick Bruner 08-22-2007 03:59 PM

I have a 2/3 finished basement with a drop ceiling.....the house was built in the 40' I suspect there are several cracks in the basement walls....every winter (Syracuse, NY) I catch about 12 field mice - using simple traps - removing a ceiling tile and placing 4 traps at a time....never had a problem during the summer - at least that I ever recall.....I finished the basement about 12 years ago - carpeting, TV, wet bar and my computer set up so it is somewhat new - anyway early in the summer while on the computer I heard the pitter patter of feet above - so rather than DIY I called in a pest control professional - and he set about 8 poison bait boxes above the ceiling and outside the house - in two weeks the poison bait was gone - he had left me additional pellets and I recharged the traps....all was well for about four weeks and again the pitter patter of feet - during the day - I set two mouse traps and caught a shrew and a field mouse.....both were very small....and I thought that I had succeeded - again during the day the pitter patter of feet....starting to feel like Bill Murray in Caddyshack - ready to get a I went out and bought 24 more poison pellets and placed them EVERYWHERE....that was three days ago - The next afternoon I heard rustling above the false ceiling - something going after the bait in the plastic bait box - I could hear the rattle of the bait box.....this is just getting very old - patience is wearing thin - I could understand the winter but the summer has really been a surprise....(although it has been somewhat of a dry summer).....anyway is there anything else that I could do to rid these critters permanently - what about those ultrasound (?) devices - do they work....? Poison bombs....a cat....moving....:tank: :tank: one pest control person simply said "you need to go around the house and fill up all of the cracks" - Nigh on impossible......:tank: :tank:

ocoee 08-23-2007 07:51 PM

The only way to guarantee no mouse problem is total exclusion
Every hole bigger than 1/4 inch has to be sealed

Failing that a year round program of exterior baiting may help

Weather will definitely drive them in
They are the same as us when it gets too cold, to wet, too hot or too dry they are coming inside

mcvane 08-23-2007 08:06 PM

minor mice issues (compared to Rick)
I am just adding to the original post of Rick. I have had about 4-5 mice hide out in my garage this hot, humid summer. I feel sorry for Rick, but I'm new to the mouse catching thing!

I just in fact saw one today as I was going to the car...he kind of greeted me and then hid away.

I setup 2 traps to see if I can catch him, but what I have to do is prevent mice from coming in the garage in the first place.

I believe it is sneaking in through a small gap very close to the ground, on the sides of our double door garages. Also, there is a part where the concrete is uneven (or the garage doors are uneven to the ground where there is a minor gap.

My question is: I don't think I can seal off the bottom parts of the garage doors because they need a bit of space in order for the doors to close. What can I do to cover these gaps? I will try to go out and take some pictures so you know what I mean.

Thanks for any help in advance.

Rick Bruner 08-24-2007 01:56 PM

Thanks much - you confirmed what I suspected - going back tho - do you have any experience with the ultrasonic (?) devices.....? otherwise year 'round baiting is really the only alternative....
I've had a mouse in the garage once in a while but it was only when the garbage bag or an empty soda can was accessible......just a thought....good luck....


KUIPORNG 08-24-2007 03:48 PM

I would say you go for the ultra-sound device anyway if it works it is a life saver for you... if it doesn't work... you lost $20 bucks.

for the garage... I think you need to make your garage so nicely organize that there is no place to hide... then mice will find a better home...

for Rick, may be you have not married... because 90% of wife will force to sell the house immediately with such condition... not to mention live there year after year...

problem with mice is they are party animals... they don't mind sacrafice a few of them as they sure know how to reproduce... what is better than a warm roomy basement ceiling... I agree with one of the above post.. the only way to stop this baster is to seall all the cracks... if the ultra-sound thing doesn't work....

Rick Bruner 08-24-2007 07:47 PM

Thanks--I spend most of my time in the finished basement after about 9pm- wife does not come down here except to do her laundry during the sanctuary so to are right most women do not want to share a home with man let alone mice - only kidding (NOT).....
I will buy one of those ultrasound devices tomorrow - maybe a couple - and to find holes in the basement is really going to be difficult at best.....
Talk about a never ending project......

KUIPORNG 08-28-2007 08:46 AM

there shouldn't be any hole big enough for mouse to get in below grade... otherwise your basement should be soaped with water at rainy days... so the hole must be above grade and visible ... did you look at all the pipes/cables/wires which go through your external wall see if they need to be caulked as mice can enter from gaps there.... I would really want to find out where the hole is.... you have a brave wife... who dare to go downstair to wash cloths knowing there may be mice running on top of her head... to be honest... both me and my wife consider mice being the scariest creature on earth...

mcvane 08-28-2007 09:08 AM


Honestly, I'm not a fan of Mickey Mouse or his extended family (which seem to bug us every so often), but my wife (who is brave) has convinced me that they are usually scared, furry friends who are not looking to hurt you, but they just want to live with you.

They certainly make a mess, but I've learned to not be scared of them. After putting a few of them in garbage cans and cleaning their mess in the garage, it might be dirty, but when we found a dead racoon in our back yard last summer, I love mice!! That racoon was brutal and to get him into a bag was a big job. He was so heavy!!

Anyways, whoever reads this post, seal off what you can. I'm in the process of sealing my garage door rubber part with extra foam as that is where our mice were sneaking in...

KUIPORNG 08-28-2007 10:24 AM

I wish I can link Micky to the real mice as you do... when I saw them... I am so scare and my feet got lumb.... I scare them more than they scare me... if one drop onto my head... I might be dead because of heart attack... with Raccoon... at least I can hold up a big strong stick and battle with it and probably hit his head and get satisfaction... but with mice... I don't think I can do anything with them as they are so small and running around...

ocoee 08-29-2007 07:13 AM

I have never had any personal experience with the sonic devices

Every expert I have ever talked says they don't work
Every customer that I have talked to that has used them says they do

Who do you want to believe?
I consider them chicken soup.

Mice are hard because the holes size is so small
Don't limit your search the the basement go out side with a can of foam or steel wool or both
You probably wont get all the holes the first time

Mice typically have a range of about 25 feet or so and don't smell to awfully bad when they die

Rick Bruner 08-30-2007 10:48 AM

In reading about the sound devices they do not appear to work....consensus is that they work for a short time but then the mice get used to them and ignore them.....I also read that 60 of the companies who produce/advertise these units are being sued for false perhaps they work for a week and then that's it.....I am going to start looking around the basement windows for cracks - the cinder block and mortar in the open spaces looks new despite the fact that the house is going on 69+ years.....problem being there is so many shrubs everywhere.....tough to get to those sections.....will suit up and dive in.....much appreciate all of the feedback and comments....has been quiet up in the ceiling since I reloaded all of the traps and am about to do so again - it is easy to tell where they have been - one bait trap in the front of the house moves almost every day - it is empty of bait in two days....
More fun....

Big Bob 08-30-2007 11:08 AM

CATS :yes:

Rick Bruner 08-30-2007 07:17 PM

Big Bob.....
Thanks...!! I have a 22lb cat - if I put him up in the ceiling he would fall through the ceiling tiles....but that thought has crossed my mind - having had cats over the years - most did not give a .... about the mice running around - need to stop feeding the cat - THEN it works....make 'em has been 7 days without the pitter patter of little feet so fingers are crossed....! Have spent $24+ on bait.....maybe it is slowing down the reproduction cycle....

KUIPORNG 08-31-2007 08:18 AM

At least your ceiling is not drywalled like many others... otherwise... the situation will be much worst...

mcvane 08-31-2007 09:45 AM

I've never had a cat, but would the animal cruelty activists say something if we setup a cat-house for a 'trained cat' in our garage? It's generally warm there throughout the summer but can get chilly in the winter.

Maybe he will keep Mickey on the run...?

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