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jkrodger 07-24-2007 10:20 AM

Fogger in the basement?
 
My husband and I just moved into our first home, an 82 year old brick bungalow in the city. While it passed all inspections and there was no indication of a pest problem, the previous owner did let climbing ivy attack the side of the house. This has destroyed a lot of the mortar inbetween the bricks, ivy got in one of the basement windows and even causes some through and through holes into the basement. While clearing all this away, we also saw some carpenter ants. And about 5 feet away from the house, on a tree stump that was rotting, we found a small colony of termites. We've treated the yard and exterior perimeter of the house and the interior perimeter with spray. Put down termite killer in the stump for a few days before pulling it out (saw no more termites after applying the pesticide.

We have plans to tuck point in a couple weekends, before it starts to get chilly here.

My question is...has anyone used a fogger just in the basement? We haven't seen many bugs inside the house (the occasional spider or fly from the door being open so much) so we're not too worried, except for the creepy basement. We were thinking of fogging it and then working on keeping the perimeter sprayed, to make sure anything that might have gotten in is dead.

ocoee 07-25-2007 10:34 AM

I would use a Raid Fumigator not a fogger
Foggers are atomized liquid that will simply fall back to the ground without penetrating small voids and cracks
Fumigators turn into a smoke that will seep into every crack and crevice

I have never done a home basement cause we don't have them here
But I have treated in the crawl spaces of Checkers for flies and roaches with good results and under mausoleums for flies

Treat the basement with a sprayable boric acid compound like Timbor or Borid when you are finished

jkrodger 08-06-2007 03:26 PM

ok, probably a stupid question, but would the rapid fumigator still be flammable? Our gas furnace and water heater are in the basement and we'd kinda like to be able to treat the basement without shutting off the gas.

ocoee 08-06-2007 06:51 PM

I really don't know but I don't think so

Foggers are flammable because they are mostly kerosene 99.something %

Raid fumigators are a crystal that turns into smoke when it contacts water

The packaging should give that info very clearly because that is a valid concern

I know I have treated commercial kitchens with them when noone was looking and our equipment broke down on us
I just don't remember if pilot lights were specifically a concern with the fumigator, because they usually were with our fogging machines

ocoee 08-06-2007 06:56 PM

http://www.killsbugsdead.com/fop_fum_pre.asp

The label makes no mention of being flammable
Which it would if it was

jkrodger 08-07-2007 11:33 AM

thanks, we'll look into picking that up during one of our many trips to Home Depot and Lowes

justdon 09-01-2007 06:06 PM

Dont think for a moment
 
IF you think this will kill all possible termites in basement or adjacent spaces,,,you are sadly mistaken. Termites live inside of structures,,,like concrete block hollow spaces or similiar,,they are ALWAYS inside their mud tunnel controlled environment so they cant be touched with a bomb. To be prove positive of making a barrier they cant cross is drilling every void in every block and every few inches in solid concrete(like sidewalks,driveways and concrete floors),,,like where support posts support the middles, they love to come up thru concrete and stay "INSIDE" the wooden posts etc, or even walls or pipe posts.

Knew someone had their house completely barrier proofed and treated, guarenteed,,,pictures on one end wall were getting dim and hard to see. Termite treatment missed a small spot where steps connected to front door,,,they streamed thru there and took out the whole end wall of the house,,,wasnt enough studs, siding, even wallpaper to hold that wall up,,,they came up thru the walll and were eating the pictures out of the picture frames mounted on wall,,,one bite at a time.

Dont think termite treatment is a DIY project,,,it takes a good licensed treater to even have even odds!! AND chems that will actually work awhile!! IF you agree to drill the walls and do the grunt work,,,and he agrees and shows you how,,might save a nickel or two!!

MY 2 cents---pretax!!--just don--

Dutch1962 11-13-2007 11:56 PM

Fogging is only a temporary fix.(for pests like roaches) termites are as stated not gonna be touched. Those old bricks will basically 'soak up' any liquid that is not powder based. So if you can get a mixable powder(like demon wp) that will be a good barrier but for termites in a basement--I'd let a pro do it. You mentioned only seeing a small colony of termites--odds are you only saw a fraction of the colony since they are 'subterranean' and the numbers can be staggering. The carpenter ants also have more than you saw I'm sure. Older homes are especially challenging but for the bug work (non termite) you can handle it. Just arm yourself with a small bit of knowledge first before you spend alot of money at Lowes.

For info http://pestcemetery.com/?p=126 I have other articles too that may help on this site.

Good Luck


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