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Old 12-02-2012, 09:24 AM   #16
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Trap and release is generally illegal for good reasons.

We own and live in the woods-we donít want someone's nuisance here. Neither do farmers, state/federal parks, etc.
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:07 AM   #17
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It is obvious that NiNe O and PAbugman have their minds made up about the best way to get rid of gophers. I am not certain where they obtain the facts that they use to justify their opinions. My advice on trap and release comes from 20 years of following this practice. I have caught and released gophers, skunks, raccoons and possums and never had a repeat customer. They both agree this is impossible to do successfully based upon their expertise in the matter. That's fine. People believe what they want and there is little anyone can do about it. Or as one philosopher once said, "Stop trying to confuse me with the facts." If they believe that a 10 minute ride away from the capture site is insufficient then why not increase the distance. I never said the OP had to use my estimation of how far I travel (timewise) to release a critter. In fact it is likely to be illegal for firearms to be discharged so close to his home and both individuals seemed to favor shooting over releasing. In my town one can phone animal control and the agent puts a Havaheart trap in your yard and then relocates the animal to the woods. How do I know? Because I asked an agent as she was loading a raccoon caught in a Havaheart trap into her truck and that is the information I was given. So maybe the very best advice to give the OP is to call animal control and have the town trap and release assuming this conforms to his township's policy.
I find it interesting that PAbugman would prefer that the OP catch a gopher and instead of releasing it in the woods (where it might come in proximity with his home) shooting the animal as it lies helpless in a trap. Certainly this is something you'd want to capture on YouTube or bring your children to witness.
Do either gentlemen know that an errant 22 caliber bullet can travel over one mile (other bullets may travel even further) and there are many cases where hunters have killed livestock and farmers that were too far away to be seen. Still, if PABugman prefers gunfire near his property in the woods to the release of a gopher, it's his choice and I think it should be respected. By the way, that home in the woods probably used to be the home of mammals, reptiles, birds, insects and other creatures that were forced to leave to make way for human residences. That may be why gophers and other "pests" end up in residential yards where thay are not wanted.

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Old 12-03-2012, 08:41 AM   #18
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I suppose you're a veterinarian also. That way you can be absolutely certain the animal you relocate doesn't decimate a native population with some disease. Relocating an animal does nothing but help you sleep at night, all other side effects are negative. Quit being so selfish, grow a set, and do the responsible thing and terminate the varmints existence. Or deal with the damage it causes and let it be. Some people.
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You could get your neighbor a pet GopherSnake.
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All kidding aside, I have had good luck with repellants. It's not an overnight fix as the oils need to saturate the ground to be effective. You need to keep application schedules and reapply after heavy rains until you have established your control area. You also have the benefit of a small area to control.

I control 2+ acres by metering repellant concentrate into my irrigation system. Huge difference for me at least. Now I have activity just outside the treated zone. Those get trapped.

Does your city or township have a bounty for trapping them? My township pays $2 per pair of clipped front feet. Get the neighborhood boys a few clench traps for about $4 each and give them a quick lesson. They can earn a few bucks and you neighbor would probably appreciate the company.
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Nope, not a vet. And you are correct... somewhat. Animals that enter the US from foreign countries are often if not always quaranteened and checked by a vet to prevent illnesses and parasites from infecting domestic animals. But here we are talking about transporting a native animal ten minutes away from A to point B-a distance that you were so certain the animal could transverse by itself according to your previous posts.
I am not opposed to hunting and have guns of my own (legally and registered). But shooting an animal that is already caged is not hunting, it is an execution.
OK, I can't change your point of view. That's fine. But if the OP does as you have advised him and has the courage to post a video of it on YouTube I hope he remembers to credit DIYchatroom and you personally for providing the inspiration for his behavior. And as I wrote before, if he has children I hope he remembers to bring them to the execution along with his wife so that they can learn how real men deal with problems.
Yes, I do sleep rather well after relocating an animal rather than killing it. But if there were no alternative (like having animal control or the police intervene) and the animal appeared to pose an immediate and clear threat to the safety of others, ie. a rabid raccon about to bite my neighbor's infant, then I would do what is necessary even if it left me exposed to prosecution. Fortunately that day has not arrived and the OP's original post does not even remotely suggest such a scenerio.
Again, I have no intention of changing your view. That ship sailed a long time ago.

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Don't always have to use a firearm.
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My suggestion is to discuss the problem with the elder lady and get her permission to have the gophers exterminated in both your yards. Then pay an exterminator to do the job. Traps and guns are a lot more work, less effective, and possibly illegal. The job of eliminating those in the yard is not really difficult, but the appropriate pesticide may be limited use in your area. An exterminator will know how to get rid of them and do so in a short time for reasonable expense.
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Trap and release is generally illegal for good reasons; but I said that before and it fell on a deaf keyboard, illegal being the key word there. While one may not have repeat customers after releasing the nuisance animal on someone elsesí property, what about the potential new customers that have a now trap-wise animal to deal with? Gophers/groundhogs will undermine park and forestry roads, berms, etc. I suspect that the lady trapper with the raccoon, after assessing what she thought the customer wanted, simply told him what he wanted to hear and she then did what she, by law, had to do. The key words again: law, legal, illegal, etc. Professionals, myself included, have many other options beyond the legal use of firearms for meeting the legal requirements; key words again being: legal, etc.

Game biologists who have serious and educated input into the nuisance trapping laws here teach us that releasing animals is often a slow death sentence as they are taken from the area where they are established and thrown into others animals areas. This is especially true of squirrels, chippies, etc. Also very dependent on what the coming season is.
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