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Old 06-27-2011, 10:39 PM   #46
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Oh, and we are having a real bumper crop of raspberries this year, so I hope I can preserve the patch!
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Old 08-03-2011, 08:04 PM   #47
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Dcentori - are they gone...
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Old 08-13-2011, 12:55 AM   #48
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I am new to this site, so I am not sure of the rules as to whether or not I should start my own ant thread or post in this existing one. I will make a new thread if instructed.

So beginning in the spring of this year, we started to notice a lot of ants throughout the house. At first they were the tiny black ones, and it seems with a combo of ant cups and that Ortho stuff you spray around the perimeter of the house, we got rid of those. A few weeks later, the larger black ants started to come around, which I assume are/were carpenter ants. A guy at my work has a license for Termidor, so for $310 he came out and sprayed all around the house, plus 6? feet up the sides of the house. He also put some of that bait stuff under window sills (where the ants seemed to be the most), and also put some sort of spray powdery junk in many cracks/crevices throughout the house. He also sprayed Termidor around our detached garage, though not as high since we were going to be replacing some of the rotted siding shortly after. All of this seemed to help, as the number of large black ants started to dwindle, then disappear. Also, a couple days after he came to spray, I went out the front door to get the mail and there were no joke 100+ ants out on the front steps/walk either dead or dying.

Fast forward about one week after seeing the pile of dying ants, we started to notice inside the house what looked like even bigger (3/4") black ants with wings around the house. The first thing I thought of was termites, but it seemed weird that they showed up after the spraying. So after consulting the internet, we decided (maybe optimistically?) that what we had looked more like ants than termites from the photos shown. Could be wrong, though. So I asked the guy who sprayed about it, and he said if it was termites to look out for wings around the house, in windowsills and such, and also tubes on the foundation and generally in the basement. If they were ants, he said just give all the treatments some more time. In the meantime, we were killing 5-10 of these winged creatures a day. So since we didn't see any termite evidence, we uneducatedly decided that they weren't termites. And he was right, within another two weeks or so, the big winged ants have not reappeared, which is where we stand today, as far as the house goes.

Today, while painting the new siding on the garage, we noticed a lot of ants on the trim near the roof line, and also saw one of the larger ants with wings in the same area. I know that the spray was at least somewhat effective in the garage, as I saw many dead ants inside.

The questions I have I guess: What are these big ants with wings? I know there is always a possibility that they are termites, but if not, are they queens or something? Why did all these winged ants appear in the house after the treatment? Should I have the termidor guy come back to respray the garage? He gave us a 90 day guarantee. Anything we did wrong, should we be concerned more? Thank you to anyone who reads
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Old 08-20-2011, 08:20 AM   #49
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Sorry for the delay, but I was planning to offer my post-mortem after I trimmed back the raspberries and finished my first perimeter treatment of termidor. Also, I haven't been able to do that Phantom treatment in my sunroom, as we already started our annual summer caterpillar project and didn't want to risk any collateral damage (25 chrysalis this year! so far, so good!

Needless to say, despite not "finishing" my phase 1 treatment plan WE HAVE NOT SEEN A SINGLE CARPENTER ANT SINCE! THANK YOU!!

I still need to get those loose ends, and then do my second treatment for the year this fall. But as has been pointed out, no need to tear up the deck!

The real test will be to see if any show up next year, but I sincerely doubt that now.

Thanks all!

As for Porkfriedrice, I will wait for the pros to respond, but sounds like something got established inside your house and those are the winged carpenter ants. My understanding then is that if that is the nest and they have access to food and water inside, they had no need to forage outside and cross the Termidor perimeter. I have a hunch Phantom will be recommended. Good luck!

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Old 08-20-2011, 03:15 PM   #50
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dcentouri: Well done on your ants, and good advice to porkfried. All ant colonies have winged reproductive ants in them-you are seeing what is called supplemental queens. There is rarely just one queen-the supplementals are the ones that split off with a cross-section of the colony when the main colony gets too large. This new colony is called a satellite colony. When you guys treat, also treat all surrounding tree trunks, up to about your own height with Termidor. Colonies will live quite well in trees and satellite colonies split off from them, so get the tree nests too. Seeing dead/dying/distressed ants means it is working. It works slow. We give a 6 month warranty with one application and rarely get called back for warranty work. We tell the customer to wait at least two weeks after treatment before making a re-assessment.
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Old 03-19-2012, 08:50 PM   #51
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And now, Spring is upon us...

I never got around to doing a fall Termidor treatment last year, and with the mild winter here in NE Ohio, I'm afraid the CAs could be mobilizing early. Can I do my treatment this early? I know about giving about a 24hr period w/o rain, but I couldn't find anything on the label about temperature. Although we've had record breaking temps, I could easily still see another snowfall or freezing temperatures out here.

Thoughts?

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Old 03-20-2012, 04:51 PM   #52
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Hit ‘em. We’re seeing and doing carpenter ant treatments here in Pa. If you’ve been watching closely and not seeing any then it wouldn’t hurt to wait a while either.
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This is to PA bug man what is the safety on Termidor when you are digging the treated soil back up. For example they did a pretreat on our footers but I saw the exterminator spray mounds of dirt drenching it in the garage where we hadn't treated yet so that was graded and pulled some of the dirt am sure on out into the walk area in front of the garage, that's issue one issue two is I am digging right done to the footers and pouring a concrete pad adjacent to my garage and am terrified of getting into the chemicals. I know this sounds a lil neurotic but I have a fear of chemicals and my husband decided to pretreat
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Make sure you have no leaks that are causing moisture, Carpenter ants need moist wood to create nests. There is a product, Terro, that is quite effective in control. I use jar lids with a mixture of honey and borax with just a slight amount of water to aid mixing. When I first tried this I checked later and found the lid surrounded by a host of ants. A couple of days later - no more ants. I keep a few loaded lids around but have not seen any more ants. I understand that the worker ants take the mix back to feed the queen ant. She is responsible for the production of more workers. No queen = no new workers = no nest. The beauty of this is that the mix is not immediately fatal. The ants also feed/poison the home guard. You will see a few stragglers around for a few days, but without the nest they do not live long.

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